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Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 4:04 a.m.
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KUUUCH
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Aside from Cally's buyout, I approve. Why wouldn't you prefer trading him with picks/prospects? Carle's buyout hasn't been pleasant lol.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 7:37 a.m.
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We all know this is how it’s going to go down bc all other GMs are cowards
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:41 a.m.
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Stop the madness.. there will be NO bridge deal. TAMPA fan fantasy. Point will finish with over 100 pts. .. previous Tampa bridge deals were done with players with HALF the production and no All Star games. This " Disneyland " mindset is just flat wrong BUT why the heck would you want one anyway? .. to save a few bucks so you can pay him MORE later?.. Fans should be clamoring to " lock up his 20s" .. 8 year 75M and call it a decade of dominance.. to even suggest anything else is both illogical and unrealistic.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:52 a.m.
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Stop the madness.. there will be NO bridge deal. TAMPA fan fantasy. Point will finish with over 100 pts. .. previous Tampa bridge deals were done with players with HALF the production and no All Star games. This " Disneyland " mindset is just flat wrong BUT why the heck would you want one anyway? .. to save a few bucks so you can pay him MORE later?.. Fans should be clamoring to " lock up his 20s" .. 8 year 75M and call it a decade of dominance.. to even suggest anything else is both illogical and unrealistic.


Point has said before he’d be open to a bridge deal
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:57 a.m.
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How tf did Tampa get Hedman to take 7.8AAV after 4M AAV. Most underpaid superstar of a generation good Christ.
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 9:00 a.m.
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WHEN?.. well checks in the mail ... won't @#$ in your ... agents make logical decisions on best interest of their client. Please show me example of a bridge done with a 100 plus pt. Player? Answer zero .. why on earth would Point ignore market contracts of Mc David Matthew's Stones Kuchs etc.... seriously why would he even consider it from player risk standpoint? It downright illogical
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 9:01 a.m.
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Hedman .. and Mc Donough are solid contracts .. defensemen are usually paid less AAV
Mar. 3, 2019 at 9:23 a.m.
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The trouble with any bridge deal, is a team could offer Point 10.5m X 5 years and it cost 2 first, a second and third. Then is Point satisfied with 6m X 3 years from Tampa? I expect no....as BOLTLOVER1 indicated in two posts above.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:01 a.m.
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Stop the madness.. there will be NO bridge deal. TAMPA fan fantasy. Point will finish with over 100 pts. .. previous Tampa bridge deals were done with players with HALF the production and no All Star games. This " Disneyland " mindset is just flat wrong BUT why the heck would you want one anyway? .. to save a few bucks so you can pay him MORE later?.. Fans should be clamoring to " lock up his 20s" .. 8 year 75M and call it a decade of dominance.. to even suggest anything else is both illogical and unrealistic.


He might take a bridge,but it will be for a lot more money
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:16 a.m.
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He might take a bridge,but it will be for a lot more money


I would say 2 years 7.5M
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:21 a.m.
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I would say 2 years 7.5M


Maybe 8.5. Can’t really see him getting less than 8.5
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:36 a.m.
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Maybe 8.5. Can’t really see him getting less than 8.5


Well, I think he wants to win some cups and 1M less for a cup will not hurt him. After the bridge contract they would offer him 8y in the range 10.5 - 11.5M
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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Well, I think he wants to win some cups and 1M less for a cup will not hurt him. After the bridge contract they would offer him 8y in the range 10.5 - 11.5M


8.5 is taking less
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
8.5 is taking less


That´s correct, but when you look at McKinnon or Scheifele, 2y 7.5M is a massive upgrade.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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That´s correct, but when you look at McKinnon or Scheifele, 2y 7.5M is a massive upgrade.


McKinnon signed after a 38 point season. Next
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 7:55 p.m.
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How tf did Tampa get Hedman to take 7.8AAV after 4M AAV. Most underpaid superstar of a generation good Christ.


Because that's what Tampa does, we sign good players to even better contract's. Non-Lightning fans put on their blindfolds and earplugs when this fact is discussed.

Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
WHEN?.. well checks in the mail ... won't @#$ in your ... agents make logical decisions on best interest of their client. Please show me example of a bridge done with a 100 plus pt. Player? Answer zero .. why on earth would Point ignore market contracts of Mc David Matthew's Stones Kuchs etc.... seriously why would he even consider it from player risk standpoint? It downright illogical


https://twitter.com/JoeSmithTB/status/1093171442924036096

AND only 7 players have posted 100+ pt seasons from 2011-2018... None of which reached 110 pts... 2018-19 is currently projecting 9 players with 100+ point seasons this year, 2 of which are on pace for 115+ pts, and kucherov ofc is on pace for 132 points. From 2011-12 to 2015-16 the total goals per game (both goals for and against) was 5.32-5.34. 2016-17 it was 5.45.. 2017-18 it was 5.90.. And now in 2018-19 its 6.03... The NHL is irrefutably scoring more nowadays, so there's your answer for your "100 pt bridge" argument.

McDavid & Matthews are poor comparisons (tax rate difference). Stone is 4 years older & had 2 more successful NHL seasons @ signing date than Pointer. Kucherov is 3 years older, had 1 more successful season @ signing date. And he already ran thru his Tampa 3 year bridge.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:04 p.m.
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The trouble with any bridge deal, is a team could offer Point 10.5m X 5 years and it cost 2 first, a second and third. Then is Point satisfied with 6m X 3 years from Tampa? I expect no....as BOLTLOVER1 indicated in two posts above.


This is only possible if Point holds out on signing whatever Tampa offers him... If he signs with us @ 6m x 3 years BEFORE July 1st, it's a done deal bud.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:05 p.m.
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Because that's what Tampa does, we sign good players to even better contract's. Non-Lightning fans put on their blindfolds and earplugs when this fact is discussed.



https://twitter.com/JoeSmithTB/status/1093171442924036096

AND only 7 players have posted 100+ pt seasons from 2011-2018... None of which reached 110 pts... 2018-19 is currently projecting 9 players with 100+ point seasons this year, 2 of which are on pace for 115+ pts, and kucherov ofc is on pace for 132 points. From 2011-12 to 2015-16 the total goals per game (both goals for and against) was 5.32-5.34. 2016-17 it was 5.45.. 2017-18 it was 5.90.. And now in 2018-19 its 6.03... The NHL is irrefutably scoring more nowadays, so there's your answer for your "100 pt bridge" argument.

McDavid & Matthews are poor comparisons (tax rate difference). Stone is 4 years older & had 2 more successful NHL seasons @ signing date than Pointer. Kucherov is 3 years older, had 1 more successful season @ signing date. And he already ran thru his Tampa 3 year bridge.


The state tax thing is a loophole that needs to be addressed in the next CBA. 100%
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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You have to remember the No Income Tax discount. You take his market value, say 9-10 M, then minus 2M and there's your 8 year salary number.
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Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:14 p.m.
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McKinnon signed after a 38 point season. Next


Lmao sneaky... Mackinnon had 52 pts in 72 g his signing year. 38 pts in in 64 g was his SOPHOMORE YEAR. Pastrnak had same ppg @ signing date. Next.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
The state tax thing is a loophole that needs to be addressed in the next CBA. 100%


I agree completely, I'd be pissed if I was a Leafs fan or somewhere with a high tax rate. But the reality is there's a tax benefit, & Tampa has all the right and reason to acknowledge it and take full advantage, which they've done and will continue to do with Point's extension.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.
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Lmao sneaky... Mackinnon had 52 pts in 72 g his signing year. 38 pts in in 64 g was his SOPHOMORE YEAR. Pastrnak had same ppg @ signing date. Next.


Pretty sure McKinnon signed in the off season after his second season. So keep laughing your ass off.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 8:29 p.m.
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Pretty sure McKinnon signed in the off season after his second season. So keep laughing your ass off.


LMAO! I'm not just "pretty sure", I'm CERTAIN Mackinnon signed his contract on July 8th, 2016... HIS 3RD SEASON. So yes, I will keep laughing my ass off @ you & all the other Capfriendly IDIOTS that don't know how to read analytics, let alone searching a simple 1st grader question like "When did Mackinnon sign his contract?"... tears of joy
Mar. 3, 2019 at 9:07 p.m.
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This is only possible if Point holds out on signing whatever Tampa offers him... If he signs with us @ 6m x 3 years BEFORE July 1st, it's a done deal bud.


What's is Point's motivation to sign before July 1st? And this tax benefit, it mostly meangingless. Certainly Raptors and Blue Jays don't get salary premiums for paying in Ontario, but somehow the tax experts on CapFriendly their the personal tax rate is so important.
Mar. 3, 2019 at 9:29 p.m.
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What's is Point's motivation to sign before July 1st? And this tax benefit, it mostly meangingless. Certainly Raptors and Blue Jays don't get salary premiums for paying in Ontario, but somehow the tax experts on CapFriendly their the personal tax rate is so important.


His motivation is to get his extension done asap, stay loyal to Tampa and his teammates, & not risk putting his franchise in a bad cap situation while they're literally fighting to keep him in Tampa... And I'm tired of explaining the tax benefit to people, but it's as simple as this. 1. We're talking about the NHL, not the NBA or MLB. 2. Cap hit, and post tax earnings are 2 separate numbers... And YES, the tax rate is what determines the latter. Here's the calculator, knock yourself out: https://gavingroup.ca/nhl-tax-calculator/
 
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