Bridging Mitch - that ship sailed when they gave AM 5 years

Marner won’t accept. He has shown that he’s worth more term and money, and will therefore demand that.

All you comparables were not their teams back to back leading point scorer nor an already point per game performer. Try again. I'd say Kane and Toews bridge contract which was 11%.

$11,634,000 is the starting point for Marner.

The only way the leafs will be able to trade Zaitsev is if there's another bad contract coming back

Trade him to Mon for Alzner than.

Good comparables except they got 5 years.... % is going to be less on a 2-year

0% chance on this

why?

Marner "Call me when you hit my number, I'll be at the beach"

11% on a 83 million cap is still below Draisaitl money, which Marner already turned down last summer. I've always quoted giving him his OHL jersey #, 9.3 million, more than Draisaitl but less than Kucherov.

kane and toews didn't sign bridge deals. They signed long term extensions.

I think bridging marner is the way to go, and I disagree with those on here that say he won't accept it. Some of the most player friendly deals lately have been bridge contracts. Think Subban is bummed out he settled for that short two year deal rather than the long term deal at 5 million? Nope, he's making 9 now. A 2 year bridge would be marner betting on himself. If he puts up back to back 100 point seasons, which I would suggest is logically a reasonable landing spot for him, and the maple leafs are staring down the barrel of back to back arbitration hearings before he goes UFA, they will cough up the big boy 8 year contract, and it will likely be significantly more than the 11 million he likely would get on a 6 year deal now.

A 2 year bridge at 8 million per, back loaded so that his QO will be huge, would likely be enough to get him to sign. Maybe if you back load it enough the leafs could get it down to 7. 4.75 in the first year and 9.25 in the second year or something like that.

It's kinda a silly to trade 5 years of Kapanen control, the second best prospect Liljegren and a second rounder for one year of Spurgeon. Much better to keep Zaitsev, and if you need cap space trade other assets and get something in return. Why trade Gauthier for nothing, he doesn't hurt the cap even if sent to the AHL.
Kinda doubt that Marner goes to bridge since he is offer sheet eligible, but as you suggest it's possible. Just because Matthews and Nylander were overpaid by the Leafs, doesn't mean Marner has to be overpaid too.(which so many suggest).

It goes other way around too, if Matthews and Nylander were overpayed, why wouldnt Marner be also. Actually Dubarelli shut down you and me and few others with the trend he set, so now we need to be humble and quiet unless he will pull himself out of sh.t without losing Johnsson and Kapanen cause he will need to overpay Marner too. In my books bridging all three is the only way out.

Leafs competition for the signing of Marner is a possible offer sheet and league comparables. So really it might be Aho and Rantanen. Leafs cannot and won't be able to continue to overpay their RFAs....gee where does it end? Really Marner has no CBA leverage because his two teammates are overpaid. It might have some public opinion but that's it.

So are we doing comparables on every team? Do Mete and Juulsen get over 4.625m next contract because AHLer Alzner gets that much? Laine and Connor make less that 6.875m Schiefele? I know Marner will use the Matthews argument, but so what? Unless the Leafs think Marner is the second best player in the league, they have don't have a moral obligation to offer Marner that much.

And you're right about the bridging . If Marner want to be make 96m over 8 years, he'll have to take his chance on the bridging route, and hope for bigger contract 2 years from now. because doubtful the Leafs or any team is offering 12m per.

Im on same page with you on this one. Sadly we cant draw League comparisons cause its all about Inside TML comparisons now. Losing Marner is proly the last comfort, Dubarelli will ship Kapanen and Johnsson before him for sure, and so overpayment will result in losing depth. Instead of having five quality youngsters with Tavares on top in three lines, it will be three with Tavares, so rolling two lines max...

Im not sure, but i think same as in RL also NHL contracts can be pre-built, i mean.....in "my office" meeting with Marner and his agent would look like we sign 2 x 7,5M contract for 2019-2021 and on the same day we sign 5 x 12M ( into Matthews greedy face ) for seasons from 2021 on, we deposit it each into our safe and we move on.

Trolls who sound like broken records...



Neither Kane nor toews signed bridge deals...

Yes Kane and Toews weren't bridge deal but that 11% number looks like a good starting number for Marner on the bridge deal, like I said even @ 11% Marner gets paid roughly around Draisaitl money. Also after the Kane and Toews first big contract they signed for 15% of the cap, which again is right where Marner should be, 15% of 90 million (possible cap ceiling 3 years from now) makes Marner 13.5 million on his long term deal.

Leafs/Leaf's fan base "Nylander will take a discount to keep the core intact"............ he didn't

Leafs/Leaf's fan base " Matthews will definitely take a discount to keep this core intact".............. he didn't either, so why should/would Marner? he's arguably the best of the three of them

wake up guys. lol Dubas has the biggest summer of his life coming up, if he can't get Marner to sign a contract by June 30th they will be exposed to offer-sheets and will have no choice but to pony up. i'm not saying it won't happen, i'm just saying the stars have to allign beautifully for TOR to sign Marner, Kapenen and Johnson.

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quote=canucks_Fan_53;831708]Leafs/Leaf's fan base "Nylander will take a discount to keep the core intact"............ he didn't

Leafs/Leaf's fan base " Matthews will definitely take a discount to keep this core intact".............. he didn't either, so why should/would Marner? he's arguably the best of the three of them

wake up guys. lol Dubas has the biggest summer of his life coming up, if he can't get Marner to sign a contract by June 30th they will be exposed to offer-sheets and will have no choice but to pony up. i'm not saying it won't happen, i'm just saying the stars have to allign beautifully for TOR to sign Marner, Kapenen and Johnson.[/quote]

Sure would like to see what teams would offer sheet Marner. There aren't many teams that have the instant cap room to make the offer. And there are even fewer teams that do have the cap that would risk lottery picks. So the Leafs aren't really at much more risk than the previous 15 years on offer sheets..
And even if the the Leafs don't match an offer sheet, they have that 10m they have allotted Marner to spend on other player(s) and have the four picks. Probably not the scenario the Leafs want, but not tragic either.

The bridge fell into the river the day Harry Potter caved to Willy.

Lol... who the hell ever said nylander would take a discount? That was the reason many teams didn’t want to touch him at the draft.

I didn’t expect Matthews to take a discount and I don’t expect marner to. I think if any of the three were to take a discount it would be marner. That doesn’t mean he is expected to though.

Bud, you're a fool if you think I'm trolling regarding Zaitsev. He's making 4.5m for 5 more years, which is a lot for a guy who can barely be considered a top 4 Dman on a porous Toronto defense.

Starts comment by calling me a fool protests that he’s not a troll then continues to troll.

Defence on Toronto was average last year. Not too bad considering all the injuries. Zaitsev played well. He is a bit overpaid. I think about 500k based on performance but I’m willing to go as far as 1m.

I’ve done enough agm’s where I move zaitsev and get myself into a spot where I’m looking to sign an rhd with about 4-5m and the UFA pool doesn’t have anything for me. Do I give up more assets and trade or take zaitsev for free? Stralman is aging and has injury problems. Myers will be too expensive and may not be worth his money. Mcquade is too slow to do anything. The rest can not play top lines.

Zaitsev however I could put beside Puck moving Rielly and not have to worry about him being covered when he rushes.

Leafs will not take a bad contract back if they are looking to shed cap. They will either keep zaitsev or move him for close to nothing (taking a pick or giving one)