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Wat a honest leaf team looks like from a non leaf fan

Created by: BigDog91
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2019
Published: May 17, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This lineup show how hard it will be to get under the cap. The leafs will need to make alot of trades to make this work and alot of the trades can be switched with different teams with similar players. So didnt get hung up on certain player.

Key facts.
1 marleau can not be traded with NTC and contract so stop trading him for players on LTIR. Those contract are insured and owners only pay small portion.
2 zaitsev contract will make him very hard to trade and leafs have no RHD
3 LEAF PLAYERS DONT MAGICALLY HAVE MORE VALUE THEN OTHER TEAMS BECAUSE THEY PLAY FOR THE LEAFS.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,750,000
3$4,000,000
3$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
I believe leafs will be lucky to get a first. For him right now. Unfortunately because off salary they will be forced to trade him.
2.
TOR
  1. Miller, Colin
Additional Details:
A similar trade to montour and buffalo.
VGK
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
3.
TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
This trade and Vancouver trade are the same plan. Get player on rookie deal who can play next year and late round pick to even it out. With his value being 2nd round pick because of offer sheet. THis is fair value. both trade can be to any team with player similar. Just thought Thompson and Virtanen would bring some size to lineup.
4.
TOR
  1. 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
His value is 4th round pick. Maybe 3rd if a team becomes desperate but not likely.
5.
TOR
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2019 4th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Montreal needs LHD really bad.
MTL
  1. Muzzin, Jake
Additional Details:
Muzzin just didnt work out. With him being 31 next year and FA he wont have the value when leaves trade for him. Also Zaitsev is almost untradable.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the STL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the DAL
2020
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the SJS
2021
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$74,863,166$0$507,500$7,636,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,750,000$10,750,000
RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$748,333$748,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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May 17, 2019 at 8:46 a.m.
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You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..
May 17, 2019 at 8:51 a.m.
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grimace Uh....oh.....I get it....troll job. squinty smile
May 17, 2019 at 8:51 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..


Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.
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May 17, 2019 at 8:54 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
You somehow managed to get rid of Kapanen, Johnsson, Nylander and Brown and make our Dcore worse than before..


I had Horton Buried and not on LTIR. So you were able to get Johnsson or Kappanen back.
May 17, 2019 at 8:54 a.m.
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Quoting: BigDog91
Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.


None of those guys would need to be moved tbh. Well.. Kadri, Zaitsev, Marleau all can be traded with limited cap space going back. Maybe Marleau would not be traded but we can manage.. Marner is not getting 11 btw. He is not the best winger in the league and he had "sudden" jump of almost 30% in terms of production with JT which was case with each of his winger since like 2013.. he is a great player but he is not worth 11. 9.5-10 on longterm deal at best.
May 17, 2019 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
None of those guys would need to be moved tbh. Well.. Kadri, Zaitsev, Marleau all can be traded with limited cap space going back. Maybe Marleau would not be traded but we can manage.. Marner is not getting 11 btw. He is not the best winger in the league and he had "sudden" jump of almost 30% in terms of production with JT which was case with each of his winger since like 2013.. he is a great player but he is not worth 11. 9.5-10 on longterm deal at best.


Kadri is on good contract so why trade him. Zatisev contract makes him impossible to trade. and Marner will get over 10 million especially in TOR.
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May 17, 2019 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: BigDog91
Kadri is on good contract so why trade him. Zatisev contract makes him impossible to trade. and Marner will get over 10 million especially in TOR.


Kadri is getting older. Cash on him. With Lindells contract Zaitsev would be a golden contract to get lol. Marner would likely get around 10.. and it would be overpayment.
May 17, 2019 at 9:14 a.m.
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Fair assessment. For Connor Brown, model it after the Sheary trade - conditional 4th that could be a 3rd
May 17, 2019 at 9:17 a.m.
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Shows leaf fans how screwed you guys are. when marner get close to or over 11 million you guys will need to make alot of changes.


Oh really? So screwed.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1153662
May 17, 2019 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier


Team bonuses also a little liberal with the cap ceiling.
May 17, 2019 at 9:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Team bonuses also a little liberal with the cap ceiling.


I am pretty certain bonuses aren't an issue. There are no high end rookies with rookie bonuses in the lineup. That was an issue when Matthews, Marner and Nylander were on their rookie deals, which they are no longer on. And the cap projections have been anywhere from 83-84 million. However you slice it, its not nearly as dire as you guys want it to be. Its all just wild speculation fueled by fans and the media.

The defence is definitely going to be inexperienced and Brown and one of Kapanen and Johnsson, possibly both will likely be moved, but that isn't a huge loss. The Leafs are good at developing young players and for every depth guy that succeeds they have a couple of Marlies who are ready to jump in and earn time. So when a young guy prices his self out of town, he gets replaced with a Marlie who is cheaper and probably about the same quality of player. The difference between Kapanen and Nylander is way bigger than the difference between Kapanen and Moore.

Having too many good young players is a very good problem to have. Even the sentiment that TO is going to have pay a huge price to get under the cap is silly. Why? Because they have high value pieces they can move for fair returns that many teams are going to be interested in obtaining. Moving Marleau to make this season easier at a huge cost, doesn't make sense nor do I think he's even going to want to waive his NMC. Moving Zaitsev wouldn't cost the Leafs anything but it wouldn't bring back a return either, he'd be moved for a 5th or 6th rounder because contrary to what fans on here like to say, he's a serviceable 2nd pair defensive defenceman. That has value but since the Leafs are against the cap they won't get fair value for him, which is why they will get basically nothing. Will all that said, moving him creates another hole that needs to be filled and would result in moving other guys out to fill that hole and likely weaken the team further.

What a reasonable and forward thinking Leaf (I raise my hand) thinks, is that the Leafs should start the season with young guys on the blueline and see how things go. Its is not impossible for Rosen, Liljegren, Sandin or Holl to surprise. Really the Leafs need to replace Hainsey's minutes and he sucks so that isn't hard. Gardiner? Sure he had good offence but he was also the best player at hanging his teammates out to dry. Once Dermott is back, the Leafs have a capable top 4 in Rielly (should have been a Norris finalist), Muzzin, Dermott and Zaitsev. So really if Rosen (Who probably would have won the defenceman of the year award in the AHL had he not been injured blocking a shot) makes the jump, Dermott continues to progress, and Muzzin and Zaitsev continue to build off what they did late in the season and in the playoffs, the defence could be improved over last year. We really only need Rosen, and 1 other guy to surprise and Rosen wouldn't even be a big surprise, he's a terrific player.

All this doom and gloom is just wishful thinking from spiteful fans.
May 17, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier


This one and many more we delivered already. You still trying to talk reason to the gloaters ? You sound like a guy with 6 kids in RL....full of patience.....
May 17, 2019 at 11:00 a.m.
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This one and many more we delivered already. You still trying to talk reason to the gloaters ? You sound like a guy with 6 kids in RL....full of patience.....


If only you could see the angry retorts I always delete before posting lol. I honestly have no idea why I bother but hey, I believe people are smarter than they act.
May 17, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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"Muzzin just didn't work out"

Yeah.. No. Stopped reading there. You clearly don't know much about this team.
 
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