Oilers Islanders trades-Better then buyouts or giving up assets to move guys

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Created by: MisstheWhalers

Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2019

Published: Jul. 31, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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No buyouts, bury Smith and Belesky, maybe trade Kreider at the TDL or mid-season if necessary.
Would the Islanders have interest in bringing Strome back? Hear they're looking for a 3C.
Thoughts?

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse		1	$1,000,000

Trades

NYR

Bear, Ethan
Brodziak, Kyle
Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
2020 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
Namestnikov, Vladislav

NYR

2020 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Strome, Ryan

Buyouts

Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
Ryan Spooner: $300,000
Brad Richards: $0

Buried

Brendan Smith: $3,275,000 ($4,350,000)
Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$74,376,466	$0	$4,852,500	$7,123,534

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 7	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Buchnevich, Pavel $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 2
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Andersson, Lias $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 3
Chytil, Filip $894,166$894,166 ($350,000$350K) C, LW UFA - 2	Howden, Brett $863,333$863,333 C, LW UFA - 2	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA
Nieves, Cristoval $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Brodziak, Kyle $1,150,000$1,150,000 C UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW UFA - 1
	McKegg, Greg $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hájek, Libor $833,333$833,333 LD UFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD UFA - 7	Lundqvist, Henrik $8,500,000$8,500,000 G NMC UFA - 2
Skjei, Brady $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD UFA - 5	Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,750,000$1,750,000 RD NTC UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar $792,500$792,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
Staal, Marc $5,700,000$5,700,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 3
	Bear, Ethan $720,000$720,000 ($20,000$20K) RD UFA - 1

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.

BeterChiarelli

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The Oilers would take that in a heartbeat - the Rangers would need something more significant coming back for ADA - but that third round pick cant be traded unless it's a conditional pick, as it's the same third rounder that's tied to the Lucic-Neal swap.

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Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:12 p.m.

Warrior24

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Rather the Isles go for a Boyle or Brassard. Just don’t think they’d want Strome back.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:13 p.m.

Nikolay_Zherdev

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Rangers don’t want brodziak or bear

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.

ForsbergForVezina

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Not sure the FO wants, but as an Isles fan, I'd love to have Strome back. He's not a top-6 forward and I don't think the Islanders will play him in that role, so I'm down

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:24 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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I would hold Deangelo. Ethan Bear is not NHL level prospect...ceiling is probably as 6th/7th man.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:37 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

Rangers don’t want brodziak or bear

Bear is a RHD prospect that replaces Deangelo and he's almost nhl ready if he isn't already.
Brodziak is only a $75K cap hit if buried in the minors, he's there to facilitate the trade for Edmonton which happens all the time.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:38 p.m.

Nikolay_Zherdev

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We don’t need another RHD we have shatty there

Jul. 31, 2019 at 12:48 p.m.

dolennorth

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not sure the oilers could fit the extra cap in

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:11 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: BeterChiarelli

Damn I forgot that, then insert a 2021 3rd.
The point of this is that the Rangers need cap space, I don't think the Oilers would have to add too much, maybe another B-grade prospect should get it done.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

We don’t need another RHD we have shatty there

Then insert a pick/forward prospect for Bear then.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:30 p.m.

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Oilers will need at least 7 million in cap space, with the guys going out they have maybe 3+ ???

Yeah no to that trad.
You keep that nice cap hit for the Rangers .

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

Oilers will need at least 7 million in cap space, with the guys going out they have maybe 3+ ???

Yeah no to that trad.
You keep that nice cap hit for the Rangers .

I've done it from the Oilers side and it fits, barely but it does.
It's better than buyouts, Deangelo is expendable.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:38 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I've done it from the Oilers side and it fits, barely but it does.
It's better than buyouts, Deangelo is expendable.

Explain how?
Nam alone = 4 million

They have less 2.5 in cap space now.

DeAngelo gets 3.5 million imo

Jul. 31, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

Explain how?
Nam alone = 4 million

They have less 2.5 in cap space now.

DeAngelo gets 3.5 million imo

I had Deangelo at less than that, $2.4M on a one year deal. Oilers play hardball with him.
It may have been with Manning to the Rangers not Brodziak though.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 4:18 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I had Deangelo at less than that, $2.4M on a one year deal. Oilers play hardball with him.
It may have been with Manning to the Rangers not Brodziak though.

Based on the deals handed, no way he signs for that.

Jul. 31, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

We don’t need another RHD we have shatty there

For how much longer?

Jul. 31, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.

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They aren’t buying him out so at least two more years

Jul. 31, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I had Deangelo at less than that, $2.4M on a one year deal. Oilers play hardball with him.
It may have been with Manning to the Rangers not Brodziak though.

Quoting: Trickster

Based on the deals handed, no way he signs for that.

Evolving Hockey has Deangelo at 6 x $4.6M, with an almost equal probability of a 2 x $2.25M bridge deal. I think either is reasonable for a mock.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15E1qqh3OfHvvhbv_pICfKT7VR1jJEVhWQOyKviWLN54/edit#gid=707766415

Aug. 1, 2019 at 8:36 a.m.

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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev

They aren’t buying him out so at least two more years

Nice timing!

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/reports-rangers-buy-defenceman-kevin-shattenkirk/

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