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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2019
Published: Aug. 5, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Tatar Petry Danault Reilly Weal 2020 TDL
Chiarot trade this summer
Juulsen pick by Seattle
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
7$4,250,000
2$1,250,000
1$1,100,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (CGY)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CGY)
2.
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (NSH)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Tatar, Tomas ($1,800,000 retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Ahac, Layton [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (STL)
VGK
  1. Petry, Jeff ($2,750,000 retained)
4.
MTL
  1. 2020 6th round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Reilly, Mike ($750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Depth for Playoffs
5.
MTL
  1. 2021 5th round pick (CAR)
6.
MTL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (NJD)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the VGK
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the CHI
2021
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the STL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the MTL
2022
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Logo of the CGY
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$70,025,475$0$3,927,500$12,974,525
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$763,333$763,333
RW, LW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:17 p.m.
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You'd probably have to take someone back in the Reilly deal with Washington. They're already over the cap right now.
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.
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Zero chance they trade Danault, especially with the season he might have this year... The 60pts mark is on his way
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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Zero chance they trade Danault, especially with the season he might have this year... The 60pts mark is on his way


If MTL arent in the playoffs comes TDL, I doubt Danault is on his way to hit the 60pts mark.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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Hard pass from Vegas. The one place they have young depth is defense, so they will pull from there both this season and next. Schuldt, Whitecloud Bischoff And Hague will all probably see some time this season and be on the team next season.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
Hard pass from Vegas. The one place they have young depth is defense, so they will pull from there both this season and next. Schuldt, Whitecloud Bischoff And Hague will all probably see some time this season and be on the team next season.


Petry would be your best defenseman. I know Theodore will be better than Petry, but right now Petry is better. Theodore-Petry McNabb-Schmidt Merrill/Schuldt-Engelland
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
Hard pass from Vegas. The one place they have young depth is defense, so they will pull from there both this season and next. Schuldt, Whitecloud Bischoff And Hague will all probably see some time this season and be on the team next season.


yeah because VGK has a history of favoring potential youth possibilities over established NHL Stars
where have you been since they came into the NHL?
every top Prospect they've had they've traded in situations just like this .
Petry to VGK only makes sense ,youth would be **** to push after all they paid for Pacioretty and Stone last year .
it would be taking 2 guys in their later 20's with the cup window closing for no apparent frigging reason by your logic lol

those players you named are more likely to be traded then start in VGk
that's just the history VGK has because its the History Mcphee had in WSH as well , remember Forsberg for a 4th line forward ?
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:38 p.m.
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yeah because VGK has a history of favoring potential youth possibilities over established NHL Stars
where have you been since they came into the NHL?
every top Prospect they've had they've traded in situations just like this .
Petry to VGK only makes sense ,youth would be **** to push after all they paid for Pacioretty and Stone last year .
it would be taking 2 guys in their later 20's with the cup window closing for no apparent frigging reason by your logic lol

those players you named are more likely to be traded then start in VGk
that's just the history VGK has because its the History Mcphee had in WSH as well , remember Forsberg for a 4th line forward ?


Martin Erat lmao
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:39 p.m.
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You go get 1st picks to have 4 picks in the 2020 draft, but I would rather have two 1st picks in each of the three next drafts. This is how you make a dynasty. If you get 2020 first round picks, you will get in trouble when those young players will ask a raise.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:41 p.m.
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You go get 1st picks to have 4 picks in the 2020 draft, but I would rather have two 1st picks in each of the three next drafts. This is how you make a dynasty. If you get 2020 first round picks, you will get in trouble when those young players will ask a raise.


They wont all play for MTL, couple will be traded before, and 2020 draft is so deep those 1st are important
Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:44 p.m.
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You go get 1st picks to have 4 picks in the 2020 draft, but I would rather have two 1st picks in each of the three next drafts. This is how you make a dynasty. If you get 2020 first round picks, you will get in trouble when those young players will ask a raise.


i think he was trying to get Lefreniere 1st overall in MTL where the draft is to complete our organizational needs .

we got Top Center , Top RW , Top RD , Top LD and Top Goalie Prospects sometimes in multiples
what we dont have is a top LW prospect younger then Drouin /Domi so long term this hurts our dynasty potential .

bringing in Lefreneiere to play with Caufield or Ylonen long term makes a lot of sense for MTL
it gives MTL the punch it needs on both wings
Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
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my only hang up is IF we trade Danault its to Seattle , they'll pay the most for a Center who finished top 10 in faceoffs and faceoff wins and pay a premium .

Seattle would likely Select Danault , take on Alzner's contract and pay us a 1st and a 2nd .
there will be no young Centers for them to have carry the Faceoff weight and instead of signing a KHL players like VGK they'll pay

Seattle could send us a lot more then anyone else player wise as there will be a lot of teams giving up Prospects some of which might thrive in MTL like a Josh Ho -Sang or Hayden Fleury .
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 1:53 p.m.
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You go get 1st picks to have 4 picks in the 2020 draft, but I would rather have two 1st picks in each of the three next drafts. This is how you make a dynasty. If you get 2020 first round picks, you will get in trouble when those young players will ask a raise.


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They wont all play for MTL, couple will be traded before, and 2020 draft is so deep those 1st are important


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i think he was trying to get Lefreniere 1st overall in MTL where the draft is to complete our organizational needs .

we got Top Center , Top RW , Top RD , Top LD and Top Goalie Prospects sometimes in multiples
what we dont have is a top LW prospect younger then Drouin /Domi so long term this hurts our dynasty potential .

bringing in Lefreneiere to play with Caufield or Ylonen long term makes a lot of sense for MTL
it gives MTL the punch it needs on both wings


Dark is right doe. You'd only need 2 first plus something to move up in the draft ... Not 4. I guess you can trade one or two 1st round 2020 for picks in later draft (21-22) on the draft floor.

Another POV would be to draft different player style like; NHL ready winger, a prospect that'll go through NCAA a couple years and a top goaltender that will need 3-4 years of maturing before being ready for pro's, like that you don't have the whole prospect pool overflooding one year and a drought the next one.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 2:55 p.m.
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I'd say Yes as a Preds fan
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 3:23 p.m.
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Zero chance they trade Danault, especially with the season he might have this year... The 60pts mark is on his way


I wouldn't be too sure about that. Wouldn't be surprised if Danault finishes with a lower point total this season then what he got last year. Not because he won't be playing well, but because of his ice-time. Last season Danault led all forwards in ice time per game, just under 18minutes. With someone like Kotkaniemi bound to get more of a role this season, who's minutes will he be chewing into? Highly doubt it will be Domi (if he stays at C, which he will to at least start the season). then you have to add guys like Poehling and Suzuki or possibly both, if both are given a shot at Center (Suzuki could be at RW, but that still leaves Poehling) Who's minutes do they take away? They can't all take away 4th line minutes.

I don't think it will be unreasonable for Danault to take more of a PK defensive role. with him splitting or Julien at least giving someone like KK, Suzuki and Poehling a few of his 5 on 5 shifts a game with Tatar and Gallagher. if Danault's ice-time goes down to about 16:00 or 16:30 minutes per game, I'd be incredibly impressed if he puts up the same point total.
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 4:36 p.m.
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yeah because VGK has a history of favoring potential youth possibilities over established NHL Stars
where have you been since they came into the NHL?
every top Prospect they've had they've traded in situations just like this .
Petry to VGK only makes sense ,youth would be **** to push after all they paid for Pacioretty and Stone last year .
it would be taking 2 guys in their later 20's with the cup window closing for no apparent frigging reason by your logic lol

those players you named are more likely to be traded then start in VGk
that's just the history VGK has because its the History Mcphee had in WSH as well , remember Forsberg for a 4th line forward ?


Tuch and Theodore were starters from Halloween in Season 1, as well has numerous other 24 year old guys which are what Schuldt and Whitecloud will be.

They also traded Miller this season to promote a kid to the defense.
They will probably still send Holden down to the AHL to get a second one on the roster.

And none of the trades they did were for a 32 year old defenseman, Stone was 26 Pacioretty 29, which is what Petry will be. No way they are giving up a first and more for him.

And that doesn’t even take into consideration that people still are unsure how much McCrimmon will be in charge of when he officially becomes GM on 9/1. McPhees history may not mean as much.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
Tuch and Theodore were starters from Halloween in Season 1, as well has numerous other 24 year old guys which are what Schuldt and Whitecloud will be.

They also traded Miller this season to promote a kid to the defense.
They will probably still send Holden down to the AHL to get a second one on the roster.

And none of the trades they did were for a 32 year old defenseman, Stone was 26 Pacioretty 29, which is what Petry will be. No way they are giving up a first and more for him.

And that doesn’t even take into consideration that people still are unsure how much McCrimmon will be in charge of when he officially becomes GM on 9/1. McPhees history may not mean as much.

Tuch had a successfull rookie Pro year in the AHL and although the offense didnt translate in the NHL in his 6 games he was likely to start for MIN had he stayed
Theodore after a great playoff run with ANA no less , ofcourse he starts . . . . . . . .

Schuldt and Whitecloud are both undrafted picks are they not ?
you know you're reaching when you got to skip right to the undrafted prospects lol

you're ignoring the fact that they've moved out 3/5 1st round picks they had
they moved Branstrom ,Suzuki and a 1st to DET for Tatar used to draft Joe Veleno .
they only have Krebs ,Glass and Hague to show from 3 years of drafting including year 1 they had three 1st's and two 2nd's

Glass will be traded before he plays in VGK as he'll need 2-3 years on bottom line to develop and VGK wont invest him longterm like that as NSH did Scissons and WSH did Wilson

Krebs is good enough to make the jump directly into the top 9 with good speed

Hague is still a good 2-3 AHL seasons from growing into his lanky frame and foot speed.
like Branstrom , the minute Hague standsout they'll use him as a trade piece to land a top player like Stone

you're completely ignoring facts to go with how you percieve reality , which isnt bad as i like you wouldnt do that trade
but what either of us thinks personally doesnt matter , what Mcphee has a history of doing does as he's the GM in VGK building an older team
by sacrificing youth and taking full advantage of the fact that they are Exempt from the Expansion draft so they will be the only buyers in a selling market .

they can go big on not only players like Hall but the RNH,Granlunds ,Krug , Hoffman , Schenn , Galchneyuk and the a dozen other quality players from Kreider to Josi,Spurgeon to Simmonds . Not as many teams will be looking to add after re-structuring for an Expansion draft and VGK can use that to their advantage turning a Nosek , Eakin or Reaves that are UFA's also .

everything i've ever seen from Mcphee tells me he's going to make a play at a cup today
if the player isnt a NHL ready prospect in 2 years time he moves them for someone who is
doesnt matter if its WSH GM Mcphee or VGK GM Mcphee his MO is ALWAYS the same .
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Tuch had a successfull rookie Pro year in the AHL and although the offense didnt translate in the NHL in his 6 games he was likely to start for MIN had he stayed
Theodore after a great playoff run with ANA no less , ofcourse he starts . . . . . . . .

Schuldt and Whitecloud are both undrafted picks are they not ?
you know you're reaching when you got to skip right to the undrafted prospects lol

you're ignoring the fact that they've moved out 3/5 1st round picks they had
they moved Branstrom ,Suzuki and a 1st to DET for Tatar used to draft Joe Veleno .
they only have Krebs ,Glass and Hague to show from 3 years of drafting including year 1 they had three 1st's and two 2nd's

Glass will be traded before he plays in VGK as he'll need 2-3 years on bottom line to develop and VGK wont invest him longterm like that as NSH did Scissons and WSH did Wilson

Krebs is good enough to make the jump directly into the top 9 with good speed

Hague is still a good 2-3 AHL seasons from growing into his lanky frame and foot speed.
like Branstrom , the minute Hague standsout they'll use him as a trade piece to land a top player like Stone

you're completely ignoring facts to go with how you percieve reality , which isnt bad as i like you wouldnt do that trade
but what either of us thinks personally doesnt matter , what Mcphee has a history of doing does as he's the GM in VGK building an older team
by sacrificing youth and taking full advantage of the fact that they are Exempt from the Expansion draft so they will be the only buyers in a selling market .

they can go big on not only players like Hall but the RNH,Granlunds ,Krug , Hoffman , Schenn , Galchneyuk and the a dozen other quality players from Kreider to Josi,Spurgeon to Simmonds . Not as many teams will be looking to add after re-structuring for an Expansion draft and VGK can use that to their advantage turning a Nosek , Eakin or Reaves that are UFA's also .

everything i've ever seen from Mcphee tells me he's going to make a play at a cup today
if the player isnt a NHL ready prospect in 2 years time he moves them for someone Tatar who is
doesnt matter if its WSH GM Mcphee or VGK GM Mcphee his MO is ALWAYS the same .


I never ignored his previous deals, but he has mentioned he can’t keep doing that because they are still a new franchise. So we shall see. But it was reported the Erik Karlsson deal fell through year one because he refused to include Glass.

But there is already talk of Hague and Glass seeing time this season. Maybe not out of camp, but eventually.

Also, all this may be moot, as McCrimmon does take over as true GM on 9/1.
 
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