Evaluating the rumored Faulk trade a year later

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Created by: Wqrrior

Team: 2020-21 Anaheim Ducks

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 10, 2019

Published: Sep. 10, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Before people tell me I went too high on Faulk's contract - Consider Hayes. He only signed in PHI because he knew they were overpaying him. Apparently ANA is on Faulk's NTC and he won't waive it unless he is extended. They probably have to drastically overpay Faulk to make this trade work. The term is the only area I'm unsure on.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
LaCombe, Jackson	3	$853,333
Zegras, Trevor	3	$925,000
Tracey, Brayden	3	$913,333

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Foegele, Warren	2	$1,050,000
Guhle, Brendan	2	$1,200,000
Larsson, Jacob	1	$925,000
Sprong, Daniel	1	$1,500,000
Terry, Troy	1	$1,000,000
Kahun, Dominik	4	$3,750,000
Kloos, Justin	2	$725,000
De Leo, Chase	2	$725,000
Dostie, Alex	2	$700,000
Sieloff, Patrick	1	$700,000
Sideroff, Deven	2	$700,000
Redmond, Angus	1	$700,000
Poturalski, Andrew	1	$700,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Faulk, Justin	7	$7,428,571
Brossoit, Laurent	2	$1,750,000
Rutta, Jan	1	$950,000
Holzer, Korbinian	1	$750,000
Wideman, Chris	1	$715,000
Peca, Matthew	1	$725,000

Trades

ANA

Foegele, Warren [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Justin Faulk
- He is extended as part of this trade, as represented by the contract he has here

CAR

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$84,000,000	$66,480,737	$0	$0	$17,519,263

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Comtois, Maxime $820,000$820,000 LW RFA - 1	Getzlaf, Ryan $8,250,000$8,250,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Rakell, Rickard $2,463,139$2,463,139 RW, LW UFA - 2
Kahun, Dominik $3,750,000$3,750,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Steel, Sam $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 1	Silfverberg, Jakob $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Jones, Max $863,333$863,333 LW, RW RFA - 1	Henrique, Adam $1,456,250$1,456,250 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 4	Sprong, Daniel $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Foegele, Warren $1,050,000$1,050,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Rowney, Carter $1,133,333$1,133,333 C, RW UFA - 1	Terry, Troy $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 3
	Lundeström, Isac $925,000$925,000 C, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $2,602,778$2,602,778 LD UFA - 2	Faulk, Justin $7,428,571$7,428,571 RD UFA - 7	Gibson, John $6,400,000$6,400,000 G UFA - 7
Fowler, Cam $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 6	Manson, Josh $2,050,000$2,050,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Brendan $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 2	Rutta, Jan $950,000$950,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Brossoit, Laurent $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1
Larsson, Jacob $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Peca, Matthew $725,000$725,000 LW, C UFA - 1		Kesler, Ryan $6,875,000$6,875,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 2

Sep. 10, 2019 at 2:36 p.m.

Wqrrior

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Sep. 10, 2019 at 2:39 p.m.

SammyT_51

GM Hockeysaurus Rex

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It would be between 6.5-6.9x5 if it happens. As for your trade.. Ritchie>>>Foegele and Kase>Faulk

Sep. 10, 2019 at 2:39 p.m.

Dan10900

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His ask was 6.5 iirc

Sep. 10, 2019 at 2:44 p.m.

rootferdukes

Your Fav Dman is Bad

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That Faulk contract is the defenseman equivalent of Kevin Hayes' deal: a significant overpay for a guy who isn't bad but isn't great either

Sep. 10, 2019 at 3:04 p.m.

swinny

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Call me crazy, but wouldn't Gardiner be a much better comparable (being a defensman and all) than Hayes?

Similar style, similar production...... no way in hell I pay $7.5 million a year for that. Not based on 4 years at just over $4 million.

If $6.5 million was Faulk's ask, we all see why Gardiner is a Cane. That is brilliant cap management by Waddell.

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Sep. 10, 2019 at 3:38 p.m.

F50marco

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Quoting: swinny

Yeah Hayes is not a good comparable. but I think everyone and their mother knows Gardiner got wayyyyy less than he probably should have. Myers making 6M, Stralman making 5.5M, Edler making 6M. I think Faulk would have plenty of reason to think 6M+ easily next year. Especially if he had a decent year this coming season. Not saying he's worth it just that he would reason to think he's worth it and not be wrong based on others in the past.

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Sep. 10, 2019 at 3:43 p.m.

palhal

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Ducks have 18m to spend on 10 players (assuming Kesler plays), next season. Does a team really want to spend 6m plus on Faulk, and give up assets to get him?

Sep. 10, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: swinny

Not sure if the Gardiner signing was "planned brilliance" by Waddell but it seemed to turn out the way. When other GMs were spending highly in the first week of July, the Canes held onto their cap. IN September there was more players available than cap...then Waddell had a choice of what UFA to sign at a modest cost.
I still wonder if the Canes would have been better not taking on the Marleau's 6.5m cap hit and forgoing the 1st rounder. They could have boosted their roster even more with at least some of that 6.5m.

Good GMs don't worry about UFAs walking. Let's say Faulk wants and gets 6.5m. Let him go Just spend that 6.5m better valued player(s).

Sep. 10, 2019 at 9:55 p.m.

swinny

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Quoting: palhal

A lot has simply fallen on Waddell's lap lol. Even Pierre Dorion would say yes to Neideritter for Rask lol

Seems everything is going Waddell's way. If I am him, ride the wave!

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