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We won game 1. That was one of few positives. I think our play style overall was more entertaining. Less dump and chance and more chances to transition. But chemistry wasn' t there. My thoughts below:

Getz Line: Ritchie must go. He’s just never going to pan out. We need an actual top 6 LW. I thought shore looked very good and would honestly play him there if it weren’t for his solid chemistry with Grant. I want to give Comtois that roster spot. He deserves it.
Kase looked sloppy overall. Bad passing, bad puck possession, and not a threat. I thought Terry looked poised and made some smart plays overall. Being in top 6 situations will make him that much better.

Swede Line: I think it would have been better if Steel wasnt shaky. He did just come back from a few games off and didn't get much practice in before then. I expect this line to improve in a game or two. Rakell and Silf are still fun to watch together.

Henrique Line: There wasn't a large impression here, I think Henrique himself is always pretty consistent. Not the most offensive threat, but rarely a liability. I still love Jones and want to see him do more. I think he has way more potential than he is give credit. And his chemistry from Terry stems directly from their great friendship. Reminds of some of our great duos from the past.

Elite 1 Grant Line: Nothing but positives here honestly. There's a reason this line got more TOI than getz line. Grant and Shore seemed to connect on more clean entry passes than any other players. I think maybe they are less damaged from Carlyles system having spent less time under it. They seem to get Eakins message.

I thought everyone not name Holzer played pretty solid D. I was very happy with Fowlers poise and offensive play. Lindholm and Manson were solid and shut down most threats. I think Larsson and Guhle each had decent games, respective of their pairings. I really hoped Holzer would be the guy. I don't think me make a trade quite yet. Maybe closer to November once we see if MDZ pans out.

Risto would be my first choice over Honka, but I assume the value is still to high.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.
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My gut tells me Detroit is going to be a bad team this year so that 2nd is for intensive purposes a very late 1st rounder. Doubt Ritchie is worth that.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
My gut tells me Detroit is going to be a bad team this year so that 2nd is for intensive purposes a very late 1st rounder. Doubt Ritchie is worth that.


I think Ritchie is worth a 2nd. But Maybe not Detroits 2nd. They also have Washingtons 2nd, so maybe that would be fairer value? Considering they are almost guaranteed a playoff spot.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
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I think Ritchie is worth a 2nd. But Maybe not Detroits 2nd. They also have Washingtons 2nd, so maybe that would be fairer value? Considering they are almost guaranteed a playoff spot.


Yeah that would make more sense to me honestly.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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You didn’t even watch the game last night. Ritchie was on the 3rd line. Steel was one of the ducks best fwds. And the Defense was awful last night.
Oct. 4, 2019 at 2:50 p.m.
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You didn’t even watch the game last night. Ritchie was on the 3rd line. Steel was one of the ducks best fwds. And the Defense was awful last night.


I did watch the game. Steel had a solid second period. But I thought compared to how that line looked in preseason Steel showed some shakyness. His move and near miss from the slot was definitely a nice moment. But he missed a lot of passes, was only 20% in Faceoffs, and only recorded one SOG.

I am fairly certain Ritchie was on Getzlafs line. He definitely was at the start of the game. Not sure if that changed at some point. Unless you are consider Getz's line at third line. Regardless, I rather him be in the press box.

I think the Defense was fine. Particularly Cam. Guhle and Larsson were definitely held to less minutes and that made sense. I think Manson and Lindhold had bad moments. But for 24 Minutes TOI, that will happen. Holzer was hot garbage.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 2:58 p.m.
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I did watch the game. Steel had a solid second period. But I thought compared to how that line looked in preseason Steel showed some shakyness. His move and near miss from the slot was definitely a nice moment. But he missed a lot of passes, was only 20% in Faceoffs, and only recorded one SOG.

I am fairly certain Ritchie was on Getzlafs line. He definitely was at the start of the game. Not sure if that changed at some point. Unless you are consider Getz's line at third line. Regardless, I rather him be in the press box.

I think the Defense was fine. Particularly Cam. Guhle and Larsson were definitely held to less minutes and that made sense. I think Manson and Lindhold had bad moments. But for 24 Minutes TOI, that will happen. Holzer was hot garbage.


It’s literally game one and the whole team still struggled passing. So yes steel had his issues passing the puck as the whole team did. They tried to pass thru to many bodies/sticks.

He was with Getzlaf and played 11 min. Getzlaf got to 16ish but it’s clear Eakins is going with the hot line. The “4th” line played about 15-16 min last night because they were the best line going.

Defensively they looked rather unsure. There was a few times that the fwd and defenseman looked at each other about coverage on the half wall and then every single Dman had some pretty bad turnovers.

It’s game one and you’re overreacting. The team struggled passing for most of the preseason but they’ll figure it out and once the do you can start judging who’s been good or bad.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 3:03 p.m.
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You say that Ritchie is a bust, but then expect to get a 2nd for him? You can't have it both ways. If he is a bust as you say then he's not worth more than a 3rd/4th

I personally believe that Ritchie, while not the player we hoped for, is still very serviceable as a third-liner. If Comtois wants to take his spot then he's going to have to out play him. I don't think we saw that in preseason
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 3:49 p.m.
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What has Honka done to warrant a $1.5M contract? League minimum or he can GTFO to Liiga.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 6:47 p.m.
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It’s literally game one and the whole team still struggled passing. So yes steel had his issues passing the puck as the whole team did. They tried to pass thru to many bodies/sticks.

He was with Getzlaf and played 11 min. Getzlaf got to 16ish but it’s clear Eakins is going with the hot line. The “4th” line played about 15-16 min last night because they were the best line going.

Defensively they looked rather unsure. There was a few times that the fwd and defenseman looked at each other about coverage on the half wall and then every single Dman had some pretty bad turnovers.

It’s game one and you’re overreacting. The team struggled passing for most of the preseason but they’ll figure it out and once the do you can start judging who’s been good or bad.


Agreed, it's also a new system with a lot more freedom. Players are going to take a while to adjust, perhaps even the whole season before they truly know what they should be doing in all situations.

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You say that Ritchie is a bust, but then expect to get a 2nd for him? You can't have it both ways. If he is a bust as you say then he's not worth more than a 3rd/4th

I personally believe that Ritchie, while not the player we hoped for, is still very serviceable as a third-liner. If Comtois wants to take his spot then he's going to have to out play him. I don't think we saw that in preseason


Not that I'm convinced we should be doing anything after 1 game, but, if changes are to be made, I'd be more interested in moving Henrique to LW and calling Lundestrom up to play C. That all-Swede line was very good during the playoffs. Not saying that Steel won't have the same success with Rakell and Silf if given a bit longer to gel, just stating my preferred change should they be made.

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What has Honka done to warrant a $1.5M contract? League minimum or he can GTFO to Liiga.


Agreed, or we could just pass on him all together because he's not very good and definitely no better than what we have (except Holzer, but we can't have all kids). Guhle needs more seasoning at the NHL level, but he's a strong skater. Meanwhile, Larsson was solid in his role last night, nothing crazy, but not a liability. Honka is bad defensively and a very "meh" skater.
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Oct. 4, 2019 at 7:02 p.m.
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My one different takeaway about last night is the condition of the ice. It was 85 degrees here yesterday and the way our most experienced puck handlers -- Getzlaf, Lindholm, even Fowler at one point -- skated past pucks they already had on their sticks suggests to me that the ice was sluggish. Anybody else have an opinion on that?

I was glad to see both Steel and Kase on the ice for game one considering their questionable health status at the end of camp. Given that, I understand their rustiness.

I love Fowler, but if he's on the right side, he doesn't score the game winner last night. That goal is impossible for a lefty to make from the right circle. Putting him on his off side is like asking Mike Trout to catch -- he can do it, but eventually it's going to affect his performance negatively. For a defenseman, playing on his off side affects offensive output more than defensive strength, and we can't afford to lose even a smidgeon of Cam's scoring ability.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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My one different takeaway about last night is the condition of the ice. It was 85 degrees here yesterday and the way our most experienced puck handlers -- Getzlaf, Lindholm, even Fowler at one point -- skated past pucks they already had on their sticks suggests to me that the ice was sluggish. Anybody else have an opinion on that?

I was glad to see both Steel and Kase on the ice for game one considering their questionable health status at the end of camp. Given that, I understand their rustiness.

I love Fowler, but if he's on the right side, he doesn't score the game winner last night. That goal is impossible for a lefty to make from the right circle. Putting him on his off side is like asking Mike Trout to catch -- he can do it, but eventually it's going to affect his performance negatively. For a defenseman, playing on his off side affects offensive output more than defensive strength, and we can't afford to lose even a smidgeon of Cam's scoring ability.


I feel you on this a LOT. I'm torn I think. I like Fowler and Guhle together so far, its not a bad tandem. But this is not the first time Folwer has been put on the right side. It didnt work then either.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 2:02 p.m.
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I feel you on this a LOT. I'm torn I think. I like Fowler and Guhle together so far, its not a bad tandem. But this is not the first time Fowler has been put on the right side. It didnt work then either.


Sometimes making a sacrifice "for the good of the team" isn't all it's cracked up to be. If Fowler scores 8 goals from the right instead of 12 goals from the left, does the additional defense make up for that?

Anaheim has to figure out a way to fill the pipeline at RD. I didn't understand Jackson Lacombe over Kaedan Korczak in June. I'm already starting to keep an eye on Braeden Schneider and Daemon Hunt for next year. I wish we could get anyone ranging from Dylan Demelo through Scott Mayfield to Savard in Columbus, but we have no magic wand to wave because we can't afford a Hall-for-Larsson trade with Rickard Rakell.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 7:27 p.m.
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Sometimes making a sacrifice "for the good of the team" isn't all it's cracked up to be. If Fowler scores 8 goals from the right instead of 12 goals from the left, does the additional defense make up for that?

Anaheim has to figure out a way to fill the pipeline at RD. I didn't understand Jackson Lacombe over Kaedan Korczak in June. I'm already starting to keep an eye on Braeden Schneider and Daemon Hunt for next year. I wish we could get anyone ranging from Dylan Demelo through Scott Mayfield to Savard in Columbus, but we have no magic wand to wave because we can't afford a Hall-for-Larsson trade with Rickard Rakell.


Agreed. I guess it depends on the net difference. There is so much math you can do to see if it makes sense. Like swapping Fowler and Guhle, if Fowler gets 8 goals rather than 12, put Guhle gets 6 goals rather than 1 or 2, its a net difference (but possibly a boost for Guhle long term). I think trading a RD for LD in general was just a dumb idea. Lindholm and Folwer arent likely going anywhere soon. So Guhle is either a bottom pairing LD or pushed Fowler.

I think other than getting more prospects through drafting, I think trading unneeded players could be helpful. Ritchie and Sprong could be casualties in that. That could allow a pick up a player of decent talent but no place.

Or we could see a Larsson/Hall trade of sorts. Even though he's captain of the Stanley Cup champs, Pietrangelo could see himself as expendable after the Faulk trade and signing. They have little Cap to spare and he's an UFA next season.

There are some decent RD UFA's coming up. Codi Ceci and Tyson Barrie are 2 solid names and given Torontos insane cap crunch, there is no way they can keep both. I think that really relies on the Ducks having a good season. Not necessarily a playoff run. But show the potential of the kids and be a good place to play.
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