Also, do you or @oneX or @Jamiepo follow baseball at all? More specifically the Blue Jays?

Yes and no.
Need to fire Atkins and Shapiro.

Yeah, I do at this point. We've given up enough IMO. I would rather have the pick or use it to acquire a more established D. You even said he's a somewhat unproven NHLer.

What do you think would be a realistic package for Robbie Ray of the Diamondbacks? And agree they need to fire Shapiro and Atkins.

I'm probably valuing Hollowell too high.

Nope, not at all.

Double post sorry

I'dbe all for it if we didn't just trade one for Muzzin then one to offload Marleau. What about Duszak or Brooks? (although I'm high on brooks)

No worries, I was just wondering if anyone had any insight about a potential trade.

Not familiar with Robbie Ray.
Pitcher?

Dont see Brooks getting a chance on Leafs sadly.

Yeah I follow baseball. Shapiro and Atkins are out to lunch concerning the Canadian market. They could learn a massive amount from Masai Ujiri.

Yeah, he's a 27-year-old southpaw, his stats are good and he should transition well to Rogers Center and the AL East bit he does give up a lot of hard contact (30 home runs in 33 starts) and he only has 1 year left on his contract. He intrigues me but I think he might be out of our price point.

What do you think a realistic package would look like to get Robbie Ray?

I hope so... but you're probably right

I'm not sure the Jays can put together a package for him right now. They have tons of money to spend...time to go throw alot of it at Gerrit Cole. He won't cost prospects and roster players so why not???

The team is in dire need of starting pitching.

He may get a chance on the Leafs if they were to move Kapanen to create some cap space. That's a potential roster spot for him...but yeah he still needs to earn it.

I heard their are not gonna go for any top tier free agents.
Which sucks.

I heard Keuchel is who they will target.

Keuchel is a bad idea. They need a top tier pitcher even possibly two because they really don't have any pitching aces in the minors.

Can we get AA back?
What you say @Sign_em_up000000 ???

Also heard Wheeler, Orodizzi, Wood, Porcello, and Pineda.

I doubt AA would ever consider working under Shapiro. The other thing is...who was the owner when they decided not to bring back AA?

Yeah...not happening.

I'd let AA have both roles.


What about Ryu from Dodgers???

I'm with ya!! I want Cole too!! (Gerrit not A.J. lol) I just wish our front office would realize this too. There's no reason to get outbid on Cole but we both know Shapiro and Atkins won't take a risk like that. They should go after Betts next year also. Still, Ray intrigues me he should transition well in Toronto and the AL East for that matter, but he only has a year left.

Keuchel would be a good get but I think our front office misses out on him too, plus he's an extreme ground ball pitcher and our infield is young and prove to mistakes so I think his numbers would take a hit on the blue jays.

Wheeler has draft pick comp attached (45th OA if we sign anyone who turned down their QO). I'm not liking our options after that. I don't mind Roark for his durability and consistency, but he's nothing to write home about which is why I like Ray or Fulmer in a trade obviously there's more but I don't want to write a novel lol.

You would. I would. @Sign_em_up000000 probably would. But we are not Rogers lol