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Created by: DJSums17

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 9, 2019

Published: Dec. 9, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

TOR

Simmonds, Wayne ($2,500,000 retained)
Subban, P.K. ($4,500,000 retained)

NJD

Ceci, Cody
Kapanen, Kasperi
Korshkov, Yegor
2020 4th round pick (TOR)
2020 7th round pick (STL)
2021 2nd round pick (TOR)

TOR

Campbell, Jack

LAK

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$78,997,143	$0	$70,000	$2,502,857

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,893,000$10,893,000 RW UFA - 6
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Simmonds, Wayne $0$0 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Subban, P.K. $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1		Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Dec. 9, 2019 at 8:51 p.m.

eatfreshrefresh

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subban sucks

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Dec. 9, 2019 at 8:52 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: linehan10

subban sucks

Not at 4.5M but no chance in hell NJ is going to retain that much for 3 years

Dec. 9, 2019 at 8:54 p.m.

Boomer125

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Not at 4.5M but no chance in hell NJ is going to retain that much for 3 years

Agreed, NJ might be willing to retain 3 mill maybe, and ya Subban has sucked but so has NJ , I'd say it's 50/50 Subban and Subban in NJ

Dec. 9, 2019 at 9:00 p.m.

GenXHockey

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I was really hoping that when I opened this Subban would be the backup...

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Dec. 9, 2019 at 9:01 p.m.

HabsForEver

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LA rejects. You aren't getting him for a 3rd string backup at best and a fringe NHL player that cleared waivers.

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Dec. 9, 2019 at 9:16 p.m.

Sign_em_up000000

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Quoting: Jamiepo

I was really hoping that when I opened this Subban would be the backup...

Me too lol.

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Dec. 9, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.

Eli

Who adds what?

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These deals are pretty close. Just add a 2nd and take out Simmonds and Campbell.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 8:38 p.m.

DJSums17

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Quoting: Eli

These deals are pretty close. Just add a 2nd and take out Simmonds and Campbell.

Add a 2nd to what?

Dec. 10, 2019 at 8:41 p.m.

DJSums17

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Quoting: Jamiepo

I was really hoping that when I opened this Subban would be the backup...

Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Me too lol.

Honestly I was thinking of getting Malcolm but Vegas is still in playoff contention and they kinda need him right now.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 8:47 p.m.

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DJSums17

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Quoting: HabsForEver

LA rejects. You aren't getting him for a 3rd string backup at best and a fringe NHL player that cleared waivers.

I do agree that we'd have to add. I don't think it's that far off though. Petan is a fantastic player and didn't look out of place any where in the line up. The fact that Winnipeg or Edmonton didn't claim him is dumb!! I'd say Petan, Hutch (just to send a G back) and Hollowell maybe another C prospect or low draft pick.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 8:55 p.m.

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DJSums17

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Quoting: linehan10

subban sucks

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Not at 4.5M but no chance in hell NJ is going to retain that much for 3 years

Quoting: Boomer125

Agreed, NJ might be willing to retain 3 mill maybe, and ya Subban has sucked but so has NJ , I'd say it's 50/50 Subban and Subban in NJ

Quoting: Boomer125

Agreed, NJ might be willing to retain 3 mill maybe, and ya Subban has sucked but so has NJ , I'd say it's 50/50 Subban and Subban in NJ

I'll get this out of the way. Subban does not suck. Ceci sucks. Subban not so much.

4.5 is about where he should be. I'd go as low as 4 mill retained but Leafs can't afford less then that. But if their retention goes down I'm taking out Korshkov or the 2nd.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 8:58 p.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: Eli

These deals are pretty close. Just add a 2nd and take out Simmonds and Campbell.

Ceci>Subban

Dec. 10, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.

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DJSums17

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Ceci>Subban

Ceci is the worst Dman in the Eastern conference and it's not even close. Maybe even entire league. Lol

Dec. 10, 2019 at 9:05 p.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: DJSums17

Ceci is the worst Dman in the Eastern conference and it's not even close. Maybe even entire league. Lol

Not even close. Not even the worst Dman on the leafs this year.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 9:06 p.m.

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DJSums17

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Not even close. Not even the worst Dman on the leafs this year.

Now I'm interested. Who's that?

Dec. 10, 2019 at 9:15 p.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: DJSums17

Now I'm interested. Who's that?

Statistically Barrie is the worst defender on our team. Ceci’s biggest problem is he is 2nd among all Toronto Dmen in ice time behind only Rielly.

Ceci’s GAR is -1.2 Subban’s is -6.8.... Ceci>Subban. Subban is a dressing room cancer as well.

Dec. 10, 2019 at 9:38 p.m.

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DJSums17

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Quoting: Jamiepo

LOL That's funny. Everybody loves Subban but sure he's a cancer.

As for stats, I'm glad you picked 1 stat from 1 30 game stretch of the worst season of his career. Lol

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