Anaheim fans clearly value Kase over Bjork. Boston fans clearly value Bjork over Kase. So let's call that a wash for the time being.

What you're left with is Lindholm for two LD's and a late first-round pick. The problem is (a) you're getting a #1 LD for what right now is a #3 LD and MAY mature into a top-4 player, and (b) you're not solving Anaheim's chief problem, which is RD. The Ducks aren't trading Lindholm unless McAvoy or Carlo is coming back. It's that simple. The bottom line is that you're trying to acquire a defenseman who, let's face it, right now is better than anyone you have (although you may argue that McAvoy's upside is higher) in return for a #2 or #3 defenseman, depending upon how he develops, and hoping that a first-round pick makes up for the difference. It won't work that way. At least for Anaheim, it won't.

This is so bad lmfao. Why would ANA give up their best winger and best defenseman for a later 1st, top 4 dman, and some scraps.

Ever heard of this game named Rickard Rakell? What about Jakob Silfverberg?

Look at Kase's 3 year sample of GAR, GAR rates, RAPM, possession metrics and it's all better than Bjork's. Bjork is a fine player but Kase blows him out of the water, PDO is a measure of being lucky basically so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, same with mentioning his stats in college when he's 23 and has only played 73 NHL games.

Who the f*ck said you can't use possession metrics? Or are you not using them because they prove you wrong?

GAR is flawed as well, but you chose to ignore that.

Zone starts really aren't important, the VAST majority of shifts start on the fly

That is false. The average number of face-offs per game is in the mid to high 50's. They are very telling of what the coach thinks of your game. Point is, Bjork is very solid defensively. Take a look at Bergeron's career. Under Claude he was about 45/55 in favor of D. Under Cassidy 60/40 offensive. Under Claude he was 55-60pts, under cassidy he is over a point a game player. Something tells me he didn't get better in his early 30's and it might just be the opportunities and players around him

Kase is getting more than Bjork and has less goals.


I will grant you that zone starts are more important for Dmen

what in the actual f is gar

what in the actual f is gar

what in the actual f is gar

goals above replacement

and there are probably over 120 shifts/game, and you don't change on every faceoff... probably only 25/game vs say 125 shifts/game, that's 80% of starts that are on the fly...

and there are probably over 120 shifts/game, and you don't change on every faceoff... probably only 25/game vs say 125 shifts/game, that's 80% of starts that are on the fly...

Did you find something that shows that there's 125 shifts in a game? That seems absurdly high to me.

and there are probably over 120 shifts/game, and you don't change on every faceoff... probably only 25/game vs say 125 shifts/game, that's 80% of starts that are on the fly...

bud, you're just making up everything in here. You want to talk about shifts, and how Kase is a top line winger? SERIOUSLY? If he's a top line winger averaging 20 shifts a night as @Propeller09 pointed out, and he's getting more shifts than any other right winger on the team (remember, according to you he's their top line RW), that would probably indicate that there are maybe 65 shifts in a game, not you're 125. In reality, he's not a top line RW, and there are many more shifts than that, because 2nd/3rd line winger on a crap team.

Yeah - He made that up and manipulated the numbers. 125 Shifts per game or per team per game? Also - that counts every player's shift.

Kase is currently 16th (7th in forwards) on his team in shifts per game @ 20.2. Which is less than Derek Grant. Seems like a top 3 Winger would get more ice time.

best != top line

yeah, 125 shifts is total... average about 30 seconds/shift, but I've seen guys in PIT like Tanev and Blueger get like 15 second shifts consistently on the PK