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Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 13, 2019
Published: Dec. 13, 2019
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Too Much? Too Little?

It's a haul.

Barkov is special.

Boyle is depth - could easily be substituted for 4th or 5th rd pick.
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BOS
  1. 2020 5th round pick (ANA)
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BOS
  1. 2020 5th round pick (COL)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,559,167$0$2,490,000$1,940,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
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UFA - 3
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$940,000$940,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: villenash
This is what Barkov says on the Russia/Finland issue - “I’m Russian, but I’m not as Russian [as people who lived there] and same thing with Finnish guys,” Barkov says. “So, I’m kinda in the middle. I grew up in Finland and have a Finnish mentality, but all my family and the blood and everything is Russian. Actually, it’s hard to say which one I am, so I say I’m both.” -- so we're both right I suppose.

On everything else, you are just projecting your feelings about the state of Florida and their team lol -- just relax man. He has 3 years until he is UFA and he is playing on a really solid team. He won't be trade this season, and he won't be traded next season. Sure anything can happen, but I don't see FLA wanting to move on from Barkov anytime soon


Projecting? This isn’t my ACGM, and while I would absolutely love to have Barkov on my team, I don’t think there’s much of a chance it ever happens. I’m a realist. Small market teams tend to have trouble holding onto their players after they hit free agency. I think we’ve kind of seen that over the years with the number of players that are traded from small market teams in their last year. Now, this puts GMs in a tricky spot. They have a responsibility to build the best team possible moving forward, and I’m sure their owner wouldn’t be thrilled with them moving their most marketable player, having said that, I kind of have a feeling we’re going to start trending towards teams trading a player with a full year, and a bit left on their deal. If Florida stinks next year they should move Barkov. They won’t, but ask Ottawa if they wish they moved two years of Karlsson instead of one. They would have gotten much more. Imagine if they had traded Stone a year earlier. All of a sudden there are way more teams involved and they get a haul. How do you think the Islanders would feel right now if they traded JT the year before he was in his UFA year for two top end prospects, a 1st, and a roster player? I think GMs should start considering it. They probably won’t.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:42 p.m.
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History of the team should only be considered under current ownership/management and they are clearly spending and trying to win. So I don't think history speaks against it

I don't know Barkov personally, so I think its just as likely he wants to be in a warm non hockey hotbed where he can enjoy the weather and be anonymous, then be a star in a hockey hot bed. Both have appeal to different people, and I don't see how we could know which appeals to him more.

Until I see reasons otherwise, I'll assume he'll stay


I’m kind of in the same boat as you as I’m not going to assume something is against the norm, because I don’t know Barkov. I see a lot of players signing 5-6 year deals off their ELC in small markets move on as soon as they can. I think it’s a very real possibility that he stays, and a very real possibility that he leaves. If I’m a struggling small market team, and it remains to be seen if Florida is going to struggle moving forward or if they turn the corner, I wouldn’t take that risk.
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Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.
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BAHAHAHAHA!

I don't think you understand how good Barkov is. Would you trade McAvoy straight up for Pasta? Barkov is a little MORE valuable than Pasta...


Not sure Id say Barkov is more valuable, I suppose it would just be team preference if theyd rather have a top scoring winger vs top 3 two-way center. But regardless Barkov isnt moving
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I’m kind of in the same boat as you as I’m not going to assume something is against the norm, because I don’t know Barkov. I see a lot of players signing 5-6 year deals off their ELC in small markets move on as soon as they can. I think it’s a very real possibility that he stays, and a very real possibility that he leaves. If I’m a struggling small market team, and it remains to be seen if Florida is going to struggle moving forward or if they turn the corner, I wouldn’t take that risk.


I think the shorter term deals is a trend now so that players can maximize their career earnings -- if they sign 8 year deals, it's likely that their next contract will not be as high because they are older. But if they sign the shorter term deals, they can then make even more money on their next contracts because they will be "in their prime" or so they think. Marner and Matthews both signed deals like that and they are in TOR, the biggest or one of the biggest markets for hockey - so I don't think it is limited to small markets, per se.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Barkov is just not getting traded unless you overpay by about x2. This is a good package with a lot of very good pieces but it still doesnt touch Barkovs value. As a Bruins fan, I wouldnt do this for Pastrnak so what makes you think FLA would do it for Barkov? Next year at the deadline if the Panthers are out of it and Barkov is still unsure about his future, then maybe they pull the trigger on a deal like this but with 2.5 years left on his deal and the Panthers looking to make the playoffs it makes 0 sense
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:50 p.m.
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I’m kind of in the same boat as you as I’m not going to assume something is against the norm, because I don’t know Barkov. I see a lot of players signing 5-6 year deals off their ELC in small markets move on as soon as they can. I think it’s a very real possibility that he stays, and a very real possibility that he leaves. If I’m a struggling small market team, and it remains to be seen if Florida is going to struggle moving forward or if they turn the corner, I wouldn’t take that risk.


Fair point but Pastas deal takes him right to UFA, I cant see Pasta leaving and Barkov could certainly be the same case. I think those contracts are a matter of GMs getting the lowest AAV they can get while the players have the chance to net their highest AAV right after the deal
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
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delusional


what part is delusional?
Dec. 13, 2019 at 12:59 p.m.
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if you think just mcavoy is enough. come on. you probably think the panthers would have to add something
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:00 p.m.
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Why would he want to leave? He has Russian players there, the tax breaks, great weather, a solid team built to compete. And they'll pay him whatever he wants.


The team isn't going to be able to add talent when they have to pay their good players. They are not competitive now and they have two elite forwards on great deals. When that catches up with them, they will have to make some decisions.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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if you think just mcavoy is enough. come on. you probably think the panthers would have to add something


Sorry, but #1 Dmen carry more value than #1 centers.
You also have to take into account team control & Age. McAvoy is 21 on pretty sweet deal. I know Barkov's contract is too, but 2.5 years from now, they are both up and one can walk and one can't.

Although Barkov is better, it would be similar to Ryan Johansen for Seth Jones Deal. Johansen has been a relative disappointment in Nashville, but his numbers up until the time of the trade look pretty similar to Barkov's.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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And you think Leafs fans make 1-sided trades??

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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And you think Leafs fans make 1-sided trades??

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Read the description and you won't look like such an imbecile.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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And you think Leafs fans make 1-sided trades??

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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Fanboi homer trade! Yay!!

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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Fanboi homer trade! Yay!!

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You can read, right? It's really not that hard.

Too Much? Too Little?

It's a haul.

Barkov is special.

Boyle is depth - could easily be substituted for 4th or 5th rd pick.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:17 p.m.
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Fanboi homer trade! Yay!!

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You often make yourself look dumb. You also come across as pointlessly angry.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:17 p.m.
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You often make yourself look dumb. You also come across as pointlessly angry.


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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:18 p.m.
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Sorry, but #1 Dmen carry more value than #1 centers.
You also have to take into account team control & Age. McAvoy is 21 on pretty sweet deal. I know Barkov's contract is too, but 2.5 years from now, they are both up and one can walk and one can't.

Although Barkov is better, it would be similar to Ryan Johansen for Seth Jones Deal. Johansen has been a relative disappointment in Nashville, but his numbers up until the time of the trade look pretty similar to Barkov's.


im sorry it really isnt. macavoy is good but he isnt a number 1 defenseman yet. he was drafted as a offensive d and is on pace for 27 points. he has injury history. its not a question at all at this point im sorry. if im a bruins fan and this happens im ecstatic. the potential is there for sure but he is not a number 1 d yet. he also plays with chara which is a pretty good security blanket. and a number 1 2 way center like barkov is more vaulable than a "#1D" clearly bruins bias if you think this is fair. johansen is not close to barkov. even with columbus. and seth jones is much better than mcavoy ainec.

and regarding the contracts, if macavoy pans out like he should he will get 8+ minimum, cant take bridge deals into consideration when considering contracts
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.
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You often make yourself look dumb. You also come across as pointlessly angry.


laugh

Is that an angry face? I can't tell.

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Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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im sorry it really isnt. macavoy is good but he isnt a number 1 defenseman yet. he was drafted as a offensive d and is on pace for 27 points. he has injury history. its not a question at all at this point im sorry. if im a bruins fan and this happens im ecstatic. the potential is there for sure but he is not a number 1 d yet. he also plays with chara which is a pretty good security blanket. and a number 1 2 way center like barkov is more vaulable than a "#1D" clearly bruins bias if you think this is fair. johansen is not close to barkov. even with columbus. and seth jones is much better than mcavoy ainec.


You clearly don't watch the Bruins. He wasn't drafted as an offensive Dman. He is the epitome of a two way defenseman.

Jones wasn't a #1 at the time of the trade either.

Playing with Chara hurts McAvoy. Especially his offense. I love Chara, but dude is slow as molasses - it makes McAvoy have to be more aware on the defensive end.

Injury prone isn't completely accurate. He had his heart thing which was just a freak thing that has been fixed. a Dman playing 20m+ a night is going to get banged up. None of the other injuries were serious - a concussion is obviously, but not in the structural type of way.

He also is very much the Bruins #1. Without question.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
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Has any player with three years left on his deal said, “I can’t wait to get out of here.”

The list of players that have said, “i want to be here for my entire career,” and then left in free agency is a really long one.


I’m not saying what he has said to reporters but to me personally. He loves it here and his girlfriend is from here. Unless something dramatic changes he isn’t leaving.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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laugh

Is that an angry face? I can't tell.

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Oh, you're still at it? You are really great at emoji's. be proud.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:33 p.m.
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I’m not saying what he has said to reporters but to me personally. He loves it here and his girlfriend is from here. Unless something dramatic changes he isn’t leaving.


Something like, Maybe not playing past April for another three years?

I am sure his GF would be willing to move to Boston. Don't know what she does, but the Northeast is ripe with opportunities.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 1:36 p.m.
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im sorry it really isnt. macavoy is good but he isnt a number 1 defenseman yet. he was drafted as a offensive d and is on pace for 27 points. he has injury history. its not a question at all at this point im sorry. if im a bruins fan and this happens im ecstatic. the potential is there for sure but he is not a number 1 d yet. he also plays with chara which is a pretty good security blanket. and a number 1 2 way center like barkov is more vaulable than a "#1D" clearly bruins bias if you think this is fair. johansen is not close to barkov. even with columbus. and seth jones is much better than mcavoy ainec.

and regarding the contracts, if macavoy pans out like he should he will get 8+ minimum, cant take bridge deals into consideration when considering contracts


He was their number#1 defenseman for TOI for a team that went to Game 7 of the Cup finals by more than 2m. I will grant you he hasn't been as offensive as they would have hoped, but they also have Krug, so the PP time isn't there, and as I mentioned HE is the one elongating Chara's career.
Dec. 13, 2019 at 2:29 p.m.
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I’m not saying what he has said to reporters but to me personally. He loves it here and his girlfriend is from here. Unless something dramatic changes he isn’t leaving.


Has any guy ever told a fan, “I can’t wait to get out of here?” A girlfriend will move if her husband is getting an 80 million dollar contract.
 
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