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EDM NSH MTL NJD

Created by: gregb569
Initial Creation Date: Jan 22, 2020
Published: Jan 22 at 6:36 am
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Khaira, Jujhar
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex ($2,450,000 retained)
PIT
  1. Coleman, Blake
  2. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
NJD
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. Almari, Niclas
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Granlund, Mikael
NSH
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
PIT
  1. Kovalchuk, Ilya
  2. 2020 5th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Alex Galchenyuk: $2,450,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
EDM
PIT
PIT
MTL
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,024,125$132,500$3,832,500$5,475,875
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
NSH
Granlund, Mikael
$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
NJD
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1

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Jan 22 at 6:41
#1
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You can try another 100 times if you want but you've got no chance getting Coleman for that.
Jan 22 at 6:48
#2
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gregb569
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: richu12
You can try another 100 times if you want but you've got no chance getting Coleman for that.


And you can try to convince me that he's worth more than that 100 more times but you're not going to be successful
Jan 22 at 8:27
#3
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Quoting: richu12
You can try another 100 times if you want but you've got no chance getting Coleman for that.


I could be being a homer rn, but i really like Almari, I haven't watched him since the beginning of the season, but he really impressed me when i did watch him, i think he has top 4 potential (note potential... not floor). I'd probably take him over POJ rn, but then again POJ just didn't show anything in the A in the beginning of the year
Jan 22 at 8:56
#4
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Quoting: richu12
You can try another 100 times if you want but you've got no chance getting Coleman for that.


It's one thing to say NJ is going to retain him, but to think that he couldn't be had for a 2nd and a middle six tracking prospect, plus an additional one is ridiculous. His value isn't higher than that of Nyquist, Coyle, or Zuccarello from last season. What do you think Coleman can get NJ?
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Jan 22 at 9:00
#5
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gregb569
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Quoting: brgh4life
It's one thing to say NJ is going to retain him, but to think that he couldn't be had for a 2nd and a middle six tracking prospect, plus an additional one is ridiculous. His value isn't higher than that of Nyquist, Coyle, or Zuccarello from last season. What do you think Coleman can get NJ?


FINALLY! Someone sane, thank you
Jan 22 at 9:10
#6
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 399
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Quoting: brgh4life
It's one thing to say NJ is going to retain him, but to think that he couldn't be had for a 2nd and a middle six tracking prospect, plus an additional one is ridiculous. His value isn't higher than that of Nyquist, Coyle, or Zuccarello from last season. What do you think Coleman can get NJ?


Charlie Coyle is the only one that is comparable as the other two were in the last year of their respective deals heading into UFA. Coyle was also struggling in Minnesota and Coleman is on pace for 30 non power play goals currently and is an extremely effective penalty killer. Saying nothing about the value in this trade because I have no clue who the prospects involved are, I would say getting a year and a half with two playoff runs out of someone with the production of Coleman at his cap hit is incredibly valuable and worth at least a 1st and some other prospects.
Jan 22 at 9:22
#7
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: gregb569
FINALLY! Someone sane, thank you


to be completely fair back to back 20 goal seasons making 1.8 million plus an extra year is stupid good.
Jan 22 at 9:27
#8
KovalchukFor2RDP
Joined: Feb 2019
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I don't see the point of everyone wanting Kovalchuk when they could've signed him for 700K a month ago lol
Now you need to pay to get
Jan 22 at 9:31
#9
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Posts: 1,363
Likes: 500
NSH wants no part in this
Jan 22 at 10:34
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gregb569
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Quoting: villenash
NSH wants no part in this


they're shopping Granlund per report so
Jan 22 at 10:35
#11
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gregb569
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
I don't see the point of everyone wanting Kovalchuk when they could've signed him for 700K a month ago lol
Now you need to pay to get


Because teams didn't know what they'd get, he's shown he can still produce at a high level thus far into his MTL tenure
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Jan 22 at 10:35
#12
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gregb569
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Quoting: Devilsfan101
to be completely fair back to back 20 goal seasons making 1.8 million plus an extra year is stupid good.


It is stupid good, but not worth a 1st + good
Jan 22 at 10:37
#13
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gregb569
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Quoting: ScottRoth
Charlie Coyle is the only one that is comparable as the other two were in the last year of their respective deals heading into UFA. Coyle was also struggling in Minnesota and Coleman is on pace for 30 non power play goals currently and is an extremely effective penalty killer. Saying nothing about the value in this trade because I have no clue who the prospects involved are, I would say getting a year and a half with two playoff runs out of someone with the production of Coleman at his cap hit is incredibly valuable and worth at least a 1st and some other prospects.


So you're telling me a 3rd liner is going to get a 1st + 3+ prospects?
Jan 22 at 10:50
#14
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Quoting: ScottRoth
Charlie Coyle is the only one that is comparable as the other two were in the last year of their respective deals heading into UFA. Coyle was also struggling in Minnesota and Coleman is on pace for 30 non power play goals currently and is an extremely effective penalty killer. Saying nothing about the value in this trade because I have no clue who the prospects involved are, I would say getting a year and a half with two playoff runs out of someone with the production of Coleman at his cap hit is incredibly valuable and worth at least a 1st and some other prospects.


There is no way an extra season of control gives him the same value as players like Duchene and Hayes. He'd be a great add but any payment that starts with a 1st is an overpay.
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Jan 22 at 10:51
#15
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Quoting: gregb569
they're shopping Granlund per report so


That's all well and good, but why would nsh want to add an underachieving forward at $4m+ for next year? They don't want to add that kind of cap in bad players. You can't just offload your bad contracts for players that you want. Doesn't work like that. They would rather just picks than this deal - "so"
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Jan 22 at 10:55
#16
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gregb569
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Quoting: villenash
That's all well and good, but why would nsh want to add an underachieving forward at $4m+ for next year? They don't want to add that kind of cap in bad players. You can't just offload your bad contracts for players that you want. Doesn't work like that. They would rather just picks than this deal - "so"


I can't really see how he's underachieving having not played since god knows when lol. He's a big body C which is great for the central division.
Throw him in the top 6 and he'll score 40 points easily at 4M, that's not bad.

Would you rather let Granlund walk? Cause I highly doubt they're going to try to retain him, why not get a C back plus a pick for someone you know isn't going to play for you next year?
Also, "bad cap bad players" nonsense, Granlund makes almost 6M this year and is producing like a 4th liner, "so"
Jan 22 at 11:08
#17
Bringer_Of_Snow
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Good trade with the Oilers. Khaira looked so promising 2 years ago, but hasn't shown consistency since. Change of scenery could be good for him. Wouldn't hurt to run Galchanyuk on the 2nd or 3rd line wing to see if he can recapture some of his offensive abilities.
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Jan 22 at 11:12
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Quoting: brgh4life
There is no way an extra season of control gives him the same value as players like Duchene and Hayes. He'd be a great add but any payment that starts with a 1st is an overpay.


Hayes was like 30 games plus playoffs and Duchene got some good prospects as well as the 1st for a similar amount of time. I think a 1st for a pleyer who will be the best PK player on your team, be able to score 20+ goals (with none on the PP) at less than a million this year (adjusted for games played) and 1.8 million next year is very fair.
Jan 22 at 11:15
#19
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Quoting: gregb569
I can't really see how he's underachieving having not played since god knows when lol. He's a big body C which is great for the central division.
Throw him in the top 6 and he'll score 40 points easily at 4M, that's not bad.

Would you rather let Granlund walk? Cause I highly doubt they're going to try to retain him, why not get a C back plus a pick for someone you know isn't going to play for you next year?
Also, "bad cap bad players" nonsense, Granlund makes almost 6M this year and is producing like a 4th liner, "so"


Sounds like you'd be better off with Bjugstad then lol and where do you see him playing C in the top 6 on NSH with Duchene and Johansen? Or even bottom 6 with Bonino, Turris, Jarnkrok, and Sissons? He's not a fit on NSH and they certainly don't want or need him next season.
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Jan 22 at 11:17
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Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
Good trade with the Oilers. Khaira looked so promising 2 years ago, but hasn't shown consistency since. Change of scenery could be good for him. Wouldn't hurt to run Galchanyuk on the 2nd or 3rd line wing to see if he can recapture some of his offensive abilities.


Edmonton's 2020 3rd is spoken for: they're going to have to send it CGY due to the conditions in the Real Deal James Neal Steal.

Khaira + 4th?
Jan 22 at 11:18
#21
KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: gregb569
So you're telling me a 3rd liner is going to get a 1st + 3+ prospects?


a 3rd liner who can round out the top 6
Jan 22 at 11:26
#22
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gregb569
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Quoting: villenash
Sounds like you'd be better off with Bjugstad then lol and where do you see him playing C in the top 6 on NSH with Duchene and Johansen? Or even bottom 6 with Bonino, Turris, Jarnkrok, and Sissons? He's not a fit on NSH and they certainly don't want or need him next season.


We have good chemistry without him and he doesn't fit the way we've been playing.
Jugs can play wing as well
Jan 22 at 11:27
#23
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gregb569
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
a 3rd liner who can round out the top 6


3rd liner nonetheless and IMO my trade offer is fair
Jan 22 at 11:30
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Quoting: gregb569
We have good chemistry without him and he doesn't fit the way we've been playing.
Jugs can play wing as well


He's got only one 20 goal season and you're right, constantly injured right now. I don't see teams lining up for that. I could see galchenyuk-granlund, UFA for UFA, as a more likely deal - but still not sure NSH would want that. I bet they just trade him for picks if they do
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Jan 22 at 11:38
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gregb569
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Quoting: villenash
He's got only one 20 goal season and you're right, constantly injured right now. I don't see teams lining up for that. I could see galchenyuk-granlund, UFA for UFA, as a more likely deal - but still not sure NSH would want that. I bet they just trade him for picks if they do


I'd do Granlund for Gally too, I highly doubt the Pens make any moves other than maybe 13th F and 7th D type moves.
They want to replace Guentzels scoring but that's not going to come cheap
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