maybe last year when nylander was holding out, that ship has sailed and it would need pesce +
No. Pesce is one of the best DFD in the league putting up 40+ point pace on a STEAL of a contract with a LOT of term. It's Pesce for Nylander as a starting point. you act like only Nylander has gotten better, and that Pesce is such a low tier piece. It's Nylander or get lost.
No. Pesce is one of the best DFD in the league putting up 40+ point pace on a STEAL of a contract with a LOT of term. It's Pesce for Nylander as a starting point. you act like only Nylander has gotten better, and that Pesce is such a low tier piece. It's Nylander or get lost.
Pesce is not putting up a 40+ point pace its more like 24.... but good try. nylanders will be a steal as well. not saying pesce hasnt gotten better but its funny how all fo these defenseman turn into #1D man once a trade with the leafs is involved (dumba,manson). hard to put pesce in the top25/30 dman in the nhl and you think it "starts" with nylander youre just delusional, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about
Pesce is not putting up a 40+ point pace its more like 24.... but good try. nylanders will be a steal as well. not saying pesce hasnt gotten better but its funny how all fo these defenseman turn into #1D man once a trade with the leafs is involved (dumba,manson). hard to put pesce in the top25/30 dman in the nhl and you think it "starts" with nylander youre just delusional, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about
You're delusional thinking otherwise. Carolina had a D man in the Norris conversation this year, and Pesce is STILL better than him. Dubas loves analytics right? PEsce reads top 5 in xGA and CA. He reads above average in xGF and CF. He's an analytical god. His on ice product? Finished last season +34.... 4th highest in the league. He fills your need PERFECTLY. Carolina don't need Nylander, you NEED pesce. It STARTS with Nylander? Don't like it? Okay fine. Don't try this ACGM's if you want to be that delusional.
You're delusional thinking otherwise. Carolina had a D man in the Norris conversation this year, and Pesce is STILL better than him. Dubas loves analytics right? PEsce reads top 5 in xGA and CA. He reads above average in xGF and CF. He's an analytical god. His on ice product? Finished last season +34.... 4th highest in the league. He fills your need PERFECTLY. Carolina don't need Nylander, you NEED pesce. It STARTS with Nylander? Don't like it? Okay fine. Don't try this ACGM's if you want to be that delusional.
there will be many people that agree with me and not alot who agree with you. i agree leafs need pesce more than canes need nylander, doesnt make mean that 1 for 1 makes sense. last year it did but now with nylander breaking out its gonna cost alot more, but im asuming your from carolina so you dont know anything about hockey so its ok
there will be many people that agree with me and not alot who agree with you. i agree leafs need pesce more than canes need nylander, doesnt make mean that 1 for 1 makes sense. last year it did but now with nylander breaking out its gonna cost alot more, but im asuming your from carolina so you dont know anything about hockey so its ok
I'd happily trade Nylander for Pesce as a Leafs fan. Cost controlled Top 3 D are very very very hard to come by.
Pesce may not be a flashy offensive player, but the Leafs have Rielly and Sandin to fill the flashy offensive defenseman role. Muzzin is a Two-Way Guy. Pesce would be the best kind of partner for Rielly.
While I think the 3 pieces in the above trade could work (upgrade at forward, still only a Top 9 player on the Canes, and then cost controlled assets in the 1st and Lilly), the deal would need to start with Nylander and build from there.
I'd happily trade Nylander for Pesce as a Leafs fan. Cost controlled Top 3 D are very very very hard to come by.
Pesce may not be a flashy offensive player, but the Leafs have Rielly and Sandin to fill the flashy offensive defenseman role. Muzzin is a Two-Way Guy. Pesce would be the best kind of partner for Rielly.
While I think the 3 pieces in the above trade could work (upgrade at forward, still only a Top 9 player on the Canes, and then cost controlled assets in the 1st and Lilly), the deal would need to start with Nylander and build from there.
Maybe something like
Pesce
Foegele
2nd
For
Nylander
Liljegren
it doesnt start with him, end of story. im done with this stupid bs
I'd happily trade Nylander for Pesce as a Leafs fan. Cost controlled Top 3 D are very very very hard to come by.
Pesce may not be a flashy offensive player, but the Leafs have Rielly and Sandin to fill the flashy offensive defenseman role. Muzzin is a Two-Way Guy. Pesce would be the best kind of partner for Rielly.
While I think the 3 pieces in the above trade could work (upgrade at forward, still only a Top 9 player on the Canes, and then cost controlled assets in the 1st and Lilly), the deal would need to start with Nylander and build from there.
Maybe something like
Pesce
Foegele
2nd
For
Nylander
Liljegren
I wouldn’t mind it if that was the price... they’re getting something back beyond Pesce so I think this would be good
I'd happily trade Nylander for Pesce as a Leafs fan. Cost controlled Top 3 D are very very very hard to come by.
Pesce may not be a flashy offensive player, but the Leafs have Rielly and Sandin to fill the flashy offensive defenseman role. Muzzin is a Two-Way Guy. Pesce would be the best kind of partner for Rielly.
While I think the 3 pieces in the above trade could work (upgrade at forward, still only a Top 9 player on the Canes, and then cost controlled assets in the 1st and Lilly), the deal would need to start with Nylander and build from there.
Maybe something like
Pesce
Foegele
2nd
For
Nylander
Liljegren
3rd line winger , 3/4 d and a 2nd for a 1/2 rw im and one of their best prospects LOL
I'd happily trade Nylander for Pesce as a Leafs fan. Cost controlled Top 3 D are very very very hard to come by.
Pesce may not be a flashy offensive player, but the Leafs have Rielly and Sandin to fill the flashy offensive defenseman role. Muzzin is a Two-Way Guy. Pesce would be the best kind of partner for Rielly.
While I think the 3 pieces in the above trade could work (upgrade at forward, still only a Top 9 player on the Canes, and then cost controlled assets in the 1st and Lilly), the deal would need to start with Nylander and build from there.
there will be many people that agree with me and not alot who agree with you. i agree leafs need pesce more than canes need nylander, doesnt make mean that 1 for 1 makes sense. last year it did but now with nylander breaking out its gonna cost alot more, but im asuming your from carolina so you dont know anything about hockey so its ok
3rd line winger , 3/4 d and a 2nd for a 1/2 rw im and one of their best prospects LOL
Nylander has had a beyond stellar season. In years prior he could barely drive a line (his shortened season). I could see the argument from your side if you equate the Pec injury of Pesce to that of Dumba (since Dumba hasn't been playing to the same standard as the year prior).
I know Nylander just scored a between the legs goal, but please think less of the guy. He held out for 3 months over 500K a season (I'm still a little bitter about it)