Guess so. My point is the trouble with him coming to the leafs is that flyers need him in the future and really he plays an important role right now. Like I said been a supporter of him before he ever played an nhl game.

If we're assuming the Flyers do want to trade him, then I think a good comparison trade will be the Montour trade. Anaheim received Brendan Guhle, who was projected to be a top-4 defenseman at the time, and a late first round pick. Both Sanheim and Montour are both young, are on similar bridge contracts, and have similar point production. It can be kind of debatable for what the Flyers needs are. In my opinion, we could use some right-handed defenseman prospects and a few picks. I don't think the conversation starts without including Liljegren. You can include him and a late first round pick or some early second and third round picks. Even though I'm really not willing to move Sanheim, I'll give you my own trade proposal idea for what I want out of him.

Toronto Receives:

Travis Sanheim

Philly Receives:

Timothy Liljegren

2021 1st round pick (can be a late pick)

2021 2nd round pick (can also be a late pick, or early third)


EDIT: Just had the idea of Travis Dermott. I'm not sure how good he is, but maybe you can add him and then mess around with the picks. If we're losing a left-handed defenseman, then it will be ideal to get one back to take the place of Sanheim temporarily.

I would love to see Myers on the Leafs.

He's a couple of years younger than my youngest son so I didn't see him much when he was young since in 2012 my son was enticed to play for his high school rather than the Moncton Flyers but having Philippe from my city here...I have been rooting for him and was surprised that he did so well in the Q after he was signed by the Philadelphia Flyers.

Seeing him miss time in Philadelphia this year, and not able to find out what was going on when I searched, made me quietly hope the Leafs would trade Liljegren + for Myers. I didn't realize the details until tonight. I believe he has more upside still as does Liljegren.

Think we have seen this season with so many injuries....you can't have enough NHL capable Dmen. Flyers have no desire to trade a capable NHLer with upside who will be on a modest contract next year.

I've always liked Myers and no my stance hasn't changed. I'd love to have him but I'm not sure if Philly would give him up. I would move out one of Kapanen, Johnsson or Kerfoot for him if they'd move him for that. I realize that alot of Leaf fans might disagree with me but I don't see why the Flyers would move him unless it's an overpay or it's a hockey deal that makes sense for them which I'm not sure any of those players move the needle enough but I'd pull the trigger if they'd agree.

What would you give up for him and what do you think it would take?

Also, I'd like to note that I've stated for a while that I think Rielly needs a more experienced d partner and I admit it would be a rocky road if Myers was his partner. I've wanted to see him and Dermott paired together before we extended Muzzin but now I don't think that's a possibility. Although, I'd like him over Holl or even to move Holl down to platoon with Liljegren on the 3rd pair right side or potentially move him as part of the trade if more pieces need to be involved.

I can't remember but who else did you like on Philly?

What would it take in your opinion for the Leafs to get him?

You're right he's a 7-8 D right now and for some reason, he hasn't gotten the chance in the city of brotherly love but I think this kids still got alot of potential. What would you be willing to give up for him?

Give him time he's still young and the potential is still there IMO.

What would you want for him from the Leafs?

Do you think they'd bite if we offered them one of Kapanen, Johnsson or Keefoot with Holl for Myers and Maybe a mid to late round pick?

What about for one of Kapanen, Johnsson, Kerfoot + Holl for Myers and a mid to late round pick? Do you think that peeks their interest at all?

Isn't that a bit of an overpay for what he currently is? I mean as a GM, you should be paying for what you think the player is at this moment.

It's nice to want a player who can grow into a role the team has a need for...but at what cost.

Maybe. I get your point, but isn't it also about how you see a player fitting in witb your team and system? Also, I don't think Johnsson and Holl for Mayers and a mid to late round pick is a massive overpay and I've been one of the biggest supporters of AJ. If that deal was on the table would you take it? I would.

They can't. Myers is a big part of our future and we need him. We won't just trade him for a change up. For us to actually trade him we will need a defenseman that's close to his age, NHL-ready, is right-handed, and is just better in general. Leafs don't have that.



He's been a 2nd paring defenseman for the past three months?

It just doesn't perk my interest as Leaf. Holl for Myers, an exchange of RHD and then the Leafs have to find a replacement for the forward traded. (though I would trade Johnsson) Actually the Flyer seem fine at forward position. Just don't think the Leafs can give the Flyers any players that would want then to give up cost efficient RHD Myers

Fair enough. I like how potential but I understand others reserve the same way I understand your not wanting to trade him. Thanks!

Fair enough, thanks!

Hmm..you have a point. AJ, Holl and a mid pick? I guess that's fair...still not sure Philly does it tho.

I meant Johnsson + Holl for Myers and a pick but you're right I don't think they do it but it would be nice.

I like Myers but giving up a D to get D is a wash at best.


I am opening to moving a a FW+ to get a D but adding Holl to the trade does not make sense to me.

Only way I'd consider trading 2 roster players+ for a D man is if the D man coming back was at least 1st pair.

All good, I get your point but I'd give up Johnsson + Holl for Myers + a pick. We could always sign someone through FA to replace AJ and you know how big of an advocate I've been of him. I get why you and pal don't want to trade away multiple players for one but if Johnsson can be replaced relatively cheap than I think it's worth it, but that's just me and I've been high on the kid for a while.

Justin Holl is nice steady D for 2 million with term.
Moving him is mistake unless your getting way better.

Myers needs to get paid too, how much you think he think he gets for how much term?


Johnsson or Kerfoot are both guys I am open moving, without question.

I get what you're saying and I like holl too, I just think Myers has a higher ceiling but I admit it's probably because of personal bias because I've liked the kid for a long time and think he fit in/grow nicely on our team and in Keef's system. Like I said, I probably have my blinders on and you have your finger way more on the pulse than I do so I need to listen to you. Also, I should note I don't want to trade Holl just thought it would be necessary. Who else did you like on Philly? Was it Hagg? Could we get Myers + Hagg or whoever instead of the pick coming back and add a pick from our end? Do you think the Flyers would even have interest in that or Dubas? Or am I out to lunch on this one?

I'm just asking if you think something could be worked out between the two teams?

I am not big Flyers fan, opposite in fact.

Hagg is horrible.


I like Frost, but who doesnt?
Really doubt Flyers move him.

I liked Patrick last season, but his current situation screams stay away unless it's a low risk move.

You're a Leafs fan like myself! Although I get what you mean they are one of your least favorite team's. Who's your second favorite team? Mine is San Jose.

I can't remember who you liked maybe Raffl? It was a plug guy like that but maybe I'm mixing you up with someone else.

What do you think a deal between the two teams would look like?