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Adressing Mtl needs TB UFA

Created by: El_Yogi
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2020
Published: May 2, 2020
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Description
I tried to adress Mtl’s 3 needs :
A scoring RW
A 1st pair LD
A good Backup G
TB trade happens after the playoffs (if draft is held before in June, so they have McDonagh for their playoff run). TB gets to shed salary while getting a mobile young top 4 D, a top RD prospect in Brook and a 1st next year.
Would it be enough to get him (if he waives his NTC to come back to Mtl)?
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
3$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$6,000,000
1$3,000,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Brook, Josh
  2. Mete, Victor
  3. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
    CBO
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    Logo of the WSH
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    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the OTT
    2021
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the PHI
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$79,475,475$0$445,000$2,024,525
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    C
    UFA - 2
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,800,000$4,800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,083,333$3,083,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,600,000$2,600,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $850,000$850,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 6
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    May 2, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.
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    We are giving up too much for McDonagh. Does not make sense why we need an aging LD at a high cap with 6 more years. Also, why bring in Hoffman? Last thing the habs need is off-ice drama.
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    May 2, 2020 at 12:52 p.m.
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    Kulak isnt getting you a 2nd. McDonagh I’ll be interested to see what TBL fans think, but his contract and term have to have significantly more value than what is represented in the trade. From an outsiders the Habs problems are what they have always been, weak down the middle particularly at the top not the wing and adding Hoffman to the mix doesn’t fix that. They have some prospects and young guys who might grow into the role particularly Suzuki, but until that’s address I think MTL stays what they are a fringe playoff team scrapping to get in.
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    May 2, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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    I rather OS Sergachev at that price - younger LD with probably the same cap. Costs a 1st, a 2nd and a third.
    May 2, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Kulak isnt getting you a 2nd. McDonagh I’ll be interested to see what TBL fans think, but his contract and term have to have significantly more value than what is represented in the trade. From an outsiders the Habs problems are what they have always been, weak down the middle particularly at the top not the wing and adding Hoffman to the mix doesn’t fix that. They have some prospects and young guys who might grow into the role particularly Suzuki, but until that’s address I think MTL stays what they are a fringe playoff team scrapping to get in.


    We have a lot of centers in the pipeline for now (only took 15 years since Saku Koivu ahhaha)

    We are in a weird in between a rebuild and trying to compete. Mtl fans are hard to please. I think assets like Petry, Tatar even domi might change hands to prepare the new core of players coming up. Especially when all their contract expire next year... if MB does some big moves this offseason... I expect some of those expiring UFA to be on the move by the TD. Unless we are clearly in the playoffs. Which could be a bummer. Because Tatar and Petry could fetch some great assets.
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    May 2, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    We have a lot of centers in the pipeline for now (only took 15 years since Saku Koivu ahhaha)

    We are in a weird in between a rebuild and trying to compete. Mtl fans are hard to please. I think assets like Petry, Tatar even domi might change hands to prepare the new core of players coming up. Especially when all their contract expire next year... if MB does some big moves this offseason... I expect some of those expiring UFA to be on the move by the TD. Unless we are clearly in the playoffs. Which could be a bummer. Because Tatar and Petry could fetch some great assets.


    Yeah from an outsider that sums it up pretty succinctly. I like Suzuki a lot and think he will be a stud. Kotkaniemi and Poehling not so much.
    May 2, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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    Yeah from an outsider that sums it up pretty succinctly. I like Suzuki a lot and think he will be a stud. Kotkaniemi and Poehling not so much.


    Give KK the benefit of the doubt - he had a better first season than Hugues and Kakko! Playing sh*t minutes on a sh*t line.

    This season was hard for him, he lost a step when he gained 20lbs in the offseason. He is young anf his confidence was stripped from him by Julien... he went down to the AHL and is a ppg player. Give him two years with Bouchard and he'll become a stud.

    Poehling was never projected to be anything else than a 3rd C... but last year he did so well and the wJc than people had their hopes up... but he'll do well.

    Suzuki is older than KK - 2 years of extra development did him some good.
    May 2, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    Give KK the benefit of the doubt - he had a better first season than Hugues and Kakko! Playing sh*t minutes on a sh*t line.

    This season was hard for him, he lost a step when he gained 20lbs in the offseason. He is young anf his confidence was stripped from him by Julien... he went down to the AHL and is a ppg player. Give him two years with Bouchard and he'll become a stud.

    Poehling was never projected to be anything else than a 3rd C... but last year he did so well and the wJc than people had their hopes up... but he'll do well.

    Suzuki is older than KK - 2 years of extra development did him some good.


    I think KK is a wing in the NHL, but you do make valid points. i just see to many posts by Habs fans trying to say what a stud Poehling is, when in actuality he is at best what you said a 3C.
    May 2, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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    I think KK is a wing in the NHL, but you do make valid points. i just see to many posts by Habs fans trying to say what a stud Poehling is, when in actuality he is at best what you said a 3C.


    He will be a great 3rd C... like Danault - Danault is our 1st C right now, but on any other team he would be third... but he would be the best third C in the league. you know what I mean? He'll have to become a specialist at something.
    May 2, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xqb15
    Kulak isnt getting you a 2nd. McDonagh I’ll be interested to see what TBL fans think, but his contract and term have to have significantly more value than what is represented in the trade. From an outsiders the Habs problems are what they have always been, weak down the middle particularly at the top not the wing and adding Hoffman to the mix doesn’t fix that. They have some prospects and young guys who might grow into the role particularly Suzuki, but until that’s address I think MTL stays what they are a fringe playoff team scrapping to get in.


    I think Mtl is pretty much set down the middle! Domi and Danault or pretty good top 6 C with Suzuki emerging as one as well and KK coming
    May 2, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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    He will be a great 3rd C... like Danault - Danault is our 1st C right now, but on any other team he would be third... but he would be the best third C in the league. you know what I mean? He'll have to become a specialist at something.


    I think Danault is a 2C on almost any team in the league except for the teams like Washington and Pittsburgh that have two 1C's, if Danault is your 3C your team is truly a contender.
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    May 2, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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    I think Mtl is pretty much set down the middle! Domi and Danault or pretty good top 6 C with Suzuki emerging as one as well and KK coming


    Counting Domi to be a 1C or 2C makes you a fringe team. He’s a nice player that had a great year with an insane career high shooting percentage once. Expecting that to regularly replicate would be foolish.
    May 2, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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    Patience is important but hard for a lot of habs fans. A decent backup for 1-2 years would be great this offseason for sure.

    RW is in great shape if you look past next year also Kovy is likely to come back next season. After next season RW will be Gally, Caufield, Armia and Byron.

    LHD is an interesting spot, lots of prospects coming up with Romanov coming next season, Harris soon after that, Norlinder and Struble look promising as well. I can see a Sergachev offer sheet but not sure about trading
    Picks or prospects to get one for now.
    May 2, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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    I think Danault is a 2C on almost any team in the league except for the teams like Washington and Pittsburgh that have two 1C's, if Danault is your 3C your team is truly a contender.


    Disagree, he’s a 3C on Toronto, Boston, Tampa, St. Louis, Edmonton (when Drai plays centre), etc. That’s no shame on danault, but a lot of teams have 2 first line centres
    May 2, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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    Tampa takes that deal and runs. Tbh If you only offered Mete they’d still accept
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    May 2, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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    I personally think McDonagh is the contract they have to move to still be a contender and then everything lines up for them after this year with McDonagh off the books to pretty much re-sign their young core like Point, Cirelli and Sergqhev over the next couple of seasons.

    Would hurt to lose him as he is still a good LD but it just makes the most sense.
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    May 2, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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    Disagree, he’s a 3C on Toronto, Boston, Tampa, St. Louis, Edmonton (when Drai plays centre), etc. That’s no shame on danault, but a lot of teams have 2 first line centres


    Yeah I know there's more then just the Caps and Pens that have 2C's better then Danault, I just didn't feel like listing them all.. Lol

    My point is Danault is a 2C, if he was traded to a team with a better 2C then him it doesn't change the fact he's a 2C, just makes his new team much much better having the best 3C in the league.
    May 2, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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    Yeah I know there's more then just the Caps and Pens that have 2C's better then Danault, I just didn't feel like listing them all.. Lol

    My point is Danault is a 2C, if he was traded to a team with a better 2C then him it doesn't change the fact he's a 2C, just makes his new team much much better having the best 3C in the league.


    Yeah he’s a 2C and in a 3C position he would probably be the best off the top of my head. Danault probably wouldn’t resign with that team though. He deserves 2C minutes. Danault to Winnipeg makes too much sense. He would be an absolute perfect fit.

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    Excellent top 6
    May 2, 2020 at 7:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Yeah he’s a 2C and in a 3C position he would probably be the best off the top of my head. Danault probably wouldn’t resign with that team though. He deserves 2C minutes. Danault to Winnipeg makes too much sense. He would be an absolute perfect fit.

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    Yes he would be a great 2C for the Jets, too bad they didn't trade for him at the 2016 TDL instead of a
    1st round pick and Dano.
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    May 2, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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    Yes he would be a great 2C for the Jets, too bad they didn't trade for him at the 2016 TDL instead of a
    1st round pick and Dano.


    Replace Dano with Danault... oh man that would’ve been a nice return for laad
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