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A Monahan Attempt

Created by: Viqsi
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2020
Published: May 23, 2020 at 11:09
Team: 2020-21 Columbus Blue Jackets
Team Explanation
Got the impression that Monahan might be available if the Flames decide to do a retool, so this is an attempt to see if it's possible to come up with a decent package. I suspect the answer to this proposal is "no thanks", but you can't win if you don't try.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc8$7,500,000
Gavrikov, Vladislav5$3,750,000
Trades
CBJ
  1. Monahan, Sean
Additional Details:
Possible conditional pick swap; see below
CGY
  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
  2. Foudy, Liam
  3. 2020 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Possible conditional pick swap; see below
CBJ
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
CONDITION: If Anderson, having played half the season or more, scores UNDER 0.3 goals per game (his prior goal scoring rate equivalent to 25 goals in a full 82-game season), then this pick swap happens.
CGY
  1. 2021 1st round pick (CBJ)
The idea is that this is insurance against Andy possibly not bouncing back.
Buyouts
  • Scott Hartnell: $1,250,000
  • Alexander Wennberg: $441,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2021
CGY
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2022
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,497,500$0$850,000$2,500
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CBJ
Foligno, Nick
$5,500,000
LW, C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$7,500,000
C
RFA - 2
CBJ
Bjorkstrand, Oliver
$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Nyquist, Gustav
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
CBJ
Atkinson, Cam
$5,875,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
CBJ
Texier, Alexandre
$897,500
LW, C
RFA - 1
CBJ
Jenner, Boone
$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Bemström, Emil
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CBJ
Robinson, Eric
$975,000
LW
UFA - 2
CBJ
Nash, Riley
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CBJ
Gerbe, Nathan
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CBJ
Werenski, Zachary
$5,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
CBJ
Jones, Seth
$5,400,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
CBJ
Korpisalo, Joonas
$2,800,000
G
UFA - 2
CBJ
Gavrikov, Vladislav
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 3
CBJ
Savard, David
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
CBJ
Merzlikins, Elvis
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
CBJ
Murray, Ryan
$4,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
CBJ
Nutivaara, Markus
$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CBJ
Kukan, Dean
$1,650,000
RD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
$5,850,000
C, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CBJ
Harrington, Scott
$1,633,333
LD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Matteau, Stefan
$725,000
LW
UFA - 1

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May 23, 2020 at 11:17
#1
Not JoshAnderson17
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#trade_jenner_cuz_center_depth_is_too_good
May 23, 2020 at 11:21
#2
wpg
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interesting trade but Flames say no.. they r trying to win the cup and trading their #1 C for futures doesn't help
May 23, 2020 at 11:26
#3
CGY
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It would probably have to be a trade that helps both teams right now
Viqsi liked this.
May 23, 2020 at 11:31
#4
MisstheWhalers
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If Calgary trades Monahan for this they should trade Gaudreau too.
May 23, 2020 at 11:48
#5
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From a Jackets perspective, I would not want to part with Foudy, even for Monahan. Sub Texier or Bemstrom for Foudy? Maybe.
May 23, 2020 at 1:20
#6
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I wouldn't do this if I was CBJ either.
You are basically asking for 3 1st and a guy with great potential.
I don't think the value is there. He's basically been a 60 pt player his whole career. That doesn't get you that kind of return.
May 23, 2020 at 1:38
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Easy no for Calgary
May 23, 2020 at 1:39
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Quoting: Bluejackets2000
From a Jackets perspective, I would not want to part with Foudy, even for Monahan. Sub Texier or Bemstrom for Foudy? Maybe.

If they'd accept Bemstrom, I'd do that too. I don't want to lose Tex. I consider Foudy an acceptable loss because I think Monahan largely is what we hope Foudy becomes.

* * *


Quoting: pharrow
I wouldn't do this if I was CBJ either.
You are basically asking for 3 1st and a guy with great potential.
I don't think the value is there. He's basically been a 60 pt player his whole career. That doesn't get you that kind of return.

Where do you get 3 1sts with the "and"? The pick swap only happens if Anderson falls apart.
May 23, 2020 at 4:37
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Quoting: Viqsi
If they'd accept Bemstrom, I'd do that too. I don't want to lose Tex. I consider Foudy an acceptable loss because I think Monahan largely is what we hope Foudy becomes.

* * *



Where do you get 3 1sts with the "and"? The pick swap only happens if Anderson falls apart.


regardless, he's a 60 point player. He's not worth that.
May 23, 2020 at 8:31
#10
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Quoting: pharrow
regardless, he's a 60 point player. He's not worth that.

He's a #2C signed to a solid contract and we're mostly offering futures. It's going to look a tad disproportionate if you value futures highly.
May 23, 2020 at 9:14
#11
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Quoting: Viqsi
He's a #2C signed to a solid contract and we're mostly offering futures. It's going to look a tad disproportionate if you value futures highly.


100% agreed, from a CBJ view I'd take your trade in a minute. I like Foudy and think he has potential to be a good 2C but it seems like a lot of CBJ fans are already penciling him at 2C starting next year. It's way too early to be doing that and I think the chances of him getting to good 2C level might be 1 in 3 at best. Lots of players light it up in the OHL but very few play at that same level in the NHL. If someone is okay with trading their higher end 2C and Foudy is going the other way then good luck Liam.
May 24, 2020 at 1:46
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Quoting: Viqsi
He's a #2C signed to a solid contract and we're mostly offering futures. It's going to look a tad disproportionate if you value futures highly.


I really don't think you get the needs of CBJ.
They don't need a 2C who is lower tier. This is a team that really needs that 1 stand out guy.
This really isn't it and hence not worth the value.
Truth is they got a really good center in PLD. But he's not a top tier 1C, and probably would be a really nice C behind someone who is sort of in that role.
This is bringing in a guy who frankly, is not as good as PLD and paying through the nose doing it. He's not worth it.
May 24, 2020 at 6:11
#13
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Quoting: pharrow
I really don't think you get the needs of CBJ.
They don't need a 2C who is lower tier. This is a team that really needs that 1 stand out guy.

No, sorry, **** that noise. I've seen how this team performs when it does that monomaniacal focus on We Only Need That One Guy, and while I appreciate Rick Nash a great deal nobody can deny that we were a ****ing joke back then. Hockey is a team sport; this idiotic fixation on "just bring in the One True Savior" is asinine and counterproductive, and has gotten us burned too g-ddamn many times. I want a team. One Guy To Draw All Attention is a total waste of time and resources.
May 24, 2020 at 7:18
#14
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Quoting: Viqsi
No, sorry, **** that noise. I've seen how this team performs when it does that monomaniacal focus on We Only Need That One Guy, and while I appreciate Rick Nash a great deal nobody can deny that we were a ****ing joke back then. Hockey is a team sport; this idiotic fixation on "just bring in the One True Savior" is asinine and counterproductive, and has gotten us burned too g-ddamn many times. I want a team. One Guy To Draw All Attention is a total waste of time and resources.


yeah this is just nonsense.
Anyone watching CBJ knows all the pieces part are there on the team. They got role players. A whole damn slew of them and they got guys who are great to help.
But that in no way diminishes their need for a real top line center. Of which this arm and a leg payment is absurd. He doesn't help CBJ win a cup. Period.
 
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