Generation player? Well Matthews signed for just five years . Even if the the season had continued this year, think the Leafs would have got out of the first round this year.
I still say that Leafs could have found just as good ways to spend 11.6m on various player(s) than Matthews and also had the four first rounders.

Kadri played offense and defense was on hell of a contract and was getting paid less than 4 million. I dont think you need a two star centers making about the same amount to win a cup. especially in a game where players play 5 minutes at a time.

Please tell what is your long term plan for defense and goaltending because I don't see one without trading one of the big four

Like I dont hate marner but u got to admit 5 firsts and 10 mill in cap would have been great for the leafs. Its basically a case of 2 paths. One path lets u have 4 amazing forwards but limits the team in other areas, the other path lets u keep 3 of the 4 players and have 5 first round picks. with 10mill of cap space

Except they have no choice but to compete NOW, not in 2023 or some sh*t like that BECAUSE THEY SIGNED TAVARES FOR HEAVENS SAKE

Him coming to TOR forced them to compete for cups even if they were AT LEAST 3 years away from doing that. It screwed up the entire rebuild process, added nothing special to the team since it already had its young forward core, removed everything that ressembles to cap flexibility... want me to go on?

Because Rielly, Muzzin, Sandin and Liljegren are just crap. This tired old garbage is so tiring.

It's going to be interesting what happens with Rielly. He is playing on a contract below market value and he'll want to cash in on his next deal. If he wants 9 mill x 7 , I can't see Dubas wanting to extend him considering it will take him to his age 35 season.

Or and Dubas has some recent proof of doing just this, Rielly may sign a shorter term deal. Lou taught Dubas what not to do by handing out big contracts to guys leaving their prime. He could just give Rielly a 4x9 million deal.

They just say uninformed opinions based on reading other people's comments that hate the Leafs. We literally have 2 top 4 D prospects ready to make the jump (potentially a 1st pairing guy in Sandin) plus the defense we already have. Its like people think you need 6 #1 dmen, can't wait for the Leafs to win b2b cups and shut up this nonsense

Lol 9 x 4. Then rielly is gone - he could be the nicest guy in the world, if you think that he’s going to leave millions on the table to stay in Toronto after seeing marner, nylander , and matthews get PAID after their ELC, I don’t know what to tell you.

Lol 9 x 4. Then rielly is gone - he could be the nicest guy in the world, if you think that he’s going to leave millions on the table to stay in Toronto after seeing marner, nylander , and matthews get PAID after their ELC, I don’t know what to tell you.

These same ****ing idiots will say that TO's defence will be terrible becuase they only have Holl as a right handed guy. The hand a player shoots was massively important to Babs and then the media made a huge deal and now all these expert Leaf haters just throw up the same bull**** all the time. Had Lehtonen signed anywhere else, he'd be a prized acquisition and a 1st pair guy on a lot of teams. Montreal wanted him to be their #1 puck mover and now he sucks and probably won't make the team. Just emotional idiots.

1000% you just sit in your basement waiting for a chance to chirp leaf fans and then jack off to any response you think was made in anger. You are a pathetic piece of work.

Players salaries go up, and whatever the market dictates will be what these guys get on their next deal. Did Crosby leave when his last deal was up? Did Kane, Ovie, Carlsson, etc etc? JT left the **** show that was the Islanders (Garth Snow years and no arena). The sentiment that TO is going to lose all their players is frankly stupid.

Lol 9 x 4. Then rielly is gone - he could be the nicest guy in the world, if you think that he’s going to leave millions on the table to stay in Toronto after seeing marner, nylander , and matthews get PAID after their ELC, I don’t know what to tell you.

We can all thank Lou for the Marleau signing. And to suggest that Kadri and his love of getting suspended in the playoffs is better than Tavares is ****ing joke.

Getting paid as a 22 yr old isn't the same as getting paid a a 28 (29?) yr old and I think he knows it. I see him getting sub 9 mil[/quote

All I’m saying is I highly doubt he’ll take a discount on both AAV and term. I can see him taking less than 9 mill, but it will be for 7-8 years.

Getting paid as a 22 yr old isn't the same as getting paid a a 28 (29?) yr old and I think he knows it. I see him getting sub 9 mil

Marner got paid because of Matthew's contract. Aside from finding success with Tavares, JT being there has no bearing on Marners contract.

Doubt it. We are already paying them so much it wouldn't be hard to give them UFA deals. Also, everyone loves playing in Toronto especially the hometown boys. Give Matthews the C and I doubt he leaves.

ummm added nothing to the team? He's literally John Tavares. If you ever watched a Leafs game you'd understand the immense value he brings. He is simply good at everything, he drives the puck, he scores, he plays defense, he makes plays. He is the guy running the team. It's not Matthews, he's the goal scorer. It's not Marner, he's the playmaker. It's Tavares with his ability to control the play. I am dumbfouded you said he adds nothing to the team. That is the most uneducated thing I've ever heard. Furthermore, although they definitley can compete now, they will still be able to in 3 years. Looking at Bergeron, Crosby, Kopitar, and other elite Centers he will still be producing until his mid-late 30's. Also, when you have the oppertunity to sign a player like John Tavares. All the time you see ACGM's siging Hall or Pietro without giving a 2nd thought to the upcoming RFA's on that team, but it often isn't frowned upon. They also had made the playoffs the year they signed him, and although they weren't favorites they put up a good fight against Washington and it made perfect sense to get a big name to push the team forward.

As much as we say a GM didn't think it through, I can guarantee you they did. I'm sure every single GM in this league has a clear roadmap planned out on where they want to be, what budget they will have to work with, and so on and so forth. I highly doubt that Dubas is panicking right now thinking "oh no all these keyboard warriors are telling me I need some grit what am I going to do?" I'm sure he has it all figured out, and I'm sure if he wants to acquire a player this summer he has already talked to the GM on what a deal would look like. I'm not worried.

So you agree that Marner was overpaid and only got that amount of money because his teammates were making 10 + million dollars

Was he a necessary, no can you say with full confidence that change your team in terms of contending , the leafs are in the same position as they were four years ago. Leafs can not overcome Boston or Tampa. JT is a complementary piece not a essential piece . They should of use that money to up grade their defense at the time.