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Eichel not Realistic i got flamed instead

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I really like this team. Trade could go either way honestly but i feel it helps all the Sabres problems. Breakout 2C, top 4 RD, starting goalie, depth player, and Andersson cause why not. I also really like the 4th line, scary af. This only happens ofc if there is a CBO which im pretty sure there will be. What do you guys think?
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May 29, 2020 at 12:44 a.m.
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Sabres decline quickly, they definitely don't need another RD, especially an offensive minded one, Georgiev and Strome combined maybe worth a mid 1st, then two middle six prospects

Think the trade would be more like Fox, Chytil, Buch, Georgiev and a 1st, maybe more
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May 29, 2020 at 12:47 a.m.
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Anything "realistic" with Eichel and NYR starts with Kakko.
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May 29, 2020 at 12:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Daredevil514
Anything "realistic" with Eichel and NYR starts with Kakko.


Stop it your making me uncomfortable
May 29, 2020 at 12:50 a.m.
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I think you forgot to add in chytyl, kravtsov, zibanajed and kakko
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May 29, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.
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I think you forgot to add in chytyl, kravtsov, zibanajed and kakko


lol if we're being realistic, Botts trading a 1C goes for 2 cap dumps, a mediocre prospect, a 1st and a 2nd.
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May 29, 2020 at 12:58 a.m.
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I think you forgot to add in chytyl, kravtsov, zibanajed and kakko


Eichel is not worth a whole arsenal. from those guys i'd do Krav+Chytil but the other two are untoachable. I edited the trade, tell me what you thinl
May 29, 2020 at 12:59 a.m.
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lol if we're being realistic, Botts trading a 1C goes for 2 cap dumps, a mediocre prospect, a 1st and a 2nd.


Mika has a cheap contract, why would we want to dump it. Plus Kakko and Krav are both super talented and both elite potential, Mika is elite already, and Chytil has top 6 pot. Not that i'd ever do that trade as a ranger anyway
May 29, 2020 at 1:04 a.m.
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Eichel is not worth a whole arsenal. from those guys i'd do Krav+Chytil but the other two are untoachable. I edited the trade, tell me what you thinl


Still not even close. You owe buff a fleet of top people if you think your getting eichel.
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May 29, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.
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Still not even close. You owe buff a fleet of top people if you think your getting eichel.


Well then keep him and go nowhere i guess. I guess no one that associates with the sabers can make a smart gm move for their life. No ones giving you anything close to what you want because it either jeopardizes the current team or jeopardizes the future
May 29, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.
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Well then keep him and go nowhere i guess. I guess no one that associates with the sabers can make a smart gm move for their life. No ones giving you anything close to what you want because it either jeopardizes the current team or jeopardizes the future


I'm not a sabres fan, you aren't getting one of the top players in the nhl for a bunch of garbage pieces. You better start throwing top pieces or buffalo hangs up. Kakko starts the talks or buff hangs up
May 29, 2020 at 1:22 a.m.
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I'm not a sabres fan, you aren't getting one of the top players in the nhl for a bunch of garbage pieces. You better start throwing top pieces or buffalo hangs up. Kakko starts the talks or buff hangs up


Garbage pieces? 4th highest scoring defenseman, best goalscorer in the NHL, 60 point center, elite talented prospect, top 6 prospect. if buffalo drafts right they could be a contender with those guys alone. They can be stubborn and keep Eichel and just go nowhere. People on twitter haven't even been disagreeing with me, just you man
May 29, 2020 at 1:29 a.m.
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Garbage pieces? 4th highest scoring defenseman, best goalscorer in the NHL, 60 point center, elite talented prospect, top 6 prospect. if buffalo drafts right they could be a contender with those guys alone. They can be stubborn and keep Eichel and just go nowhere. People on twitter haven't even been disagreeing with me, just you man


Georgiev is unproven, kravtsov has done nothing, strome is dog ****, hasn't done anything before this season playing panarin, guys a 3C at best and DeAngelo is a good piece. Your literally giving up one good piece 2 question marks and a piece of trash. Buffalo will get a million way better offers then this or keep eichel plain and simple. People are offering players like Kyle Connor, mikko rantonen, Suzuki, lafrenie, you didn't even offer 1 person close to those players. You're not getting eichel for that deal
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May 29, 2020 at 1:32 a.m.
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Sabres decline quickly, they definitely don't need another RD, especially an offensive minded one, Georgiev and Strome combined maybe worth a mid 1st, then two middle six prospects

Think the trade would be more like Fox, Chytil, Buch, Georgiev and a 1st, maybe more


I would say Zibanejad would be the starting point for any Eichel trades involving the NYR.

Funny how NYR fans think Geogiev has so much value. LoL
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May 29, 2020 at 1:36 a.m.
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I would say Zibanejad would be the starting point for any Eichel trades involving the NYR.

Funny how NYR fans think Geogiev has so much value. LoL


I don't know how much more they'd get other than Zibanejad especially after the year he just had. Considering Zibas contract, although its only 2 more seasons, thatd be pretty close to a 1 for 1
May 29, 2020 at 1:40 a.m.
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Garbage pieces? 4th highest scoring defenseman, best goalscorer in the NHL, 60 point center, elite talented prospect, top 6 prospect. if buffalo drafts right they could be a contender with those guys alone. They can be stubborn and keep Eichel and just go nowhere. People on twitter haven't even been disagreeing with me, just you man


Dude look at what Nashville traded to get Johansen back then. None of what you are offering is close to Seth Jones talent. And Johansen wasnt even close to Eichel value. An elite top 10 center, maybe even top 5 in the NHL under 25 signed for 7 years starts with the best prospect you have.

The last time Strome had a great season was in 2015, very inconsistent player. This season could be a fluke and there is high chances he goes back to 30-40 pts.

Deangelo can put up points but he's a terrible DEFENSEman and undersized.

Georgiev COULD be a 1st goaltender but right now, he's a deluxe back up.

Kravtsov is a really good prospect but had a disappointing year. Again, he COULD be good.

So if Strome continues that way, if Goergiev becomes a real goaltender and if Kravtsov becomes good it can be a good Trade but you dont trade a guy like Eichel for IF scenarios unless they Côme with huuuuge upsides like Kakko.
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May 29, 2020 at 1:46 a.m.
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I don't know how much more they'd get other than Zibanejad especially after the year he just had. Considering Zibas contract, although its only 2 more seasons, thatd be pretty close to a 1 for 1


But as you just said, only 2 more years of Zibanejad. Because of that, more would need to Head to Buffalo. Maybe not multiple pieces but definitely more.
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May 29, 2020 at 2:38 a.m.
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But as you just said, only 2 more years of Zibanejad. Because of that, more would need to Head to Buffalo. Maybe not multiple pieces but definitely more.


I couldn't see it being more than Zib and Buch for Eichel, only 2 years but at a 5.35M, probably the 2nd best contract in the league behind Mack if he continues to perform
May 29, 2020 at 5:16 a.m.
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I couldn't see it being more than Zib and Buch for Eichel, only 2 years but at a 5.35M, probably the 2nd best contract in the league behind Mack if he continues to perform


Nah. Scheifele's contract is better. Probably Draisaitl's as well due to their term.
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May 29, 2020 at 5:47 a.m.
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2 worthwhile pieces, a gamble and junk (Strome is a 3C at best and will soon be an overpaid 3C). I love the idiocy that Buffalo is sending back a 2nd and that a 4th is even involved. would you take a package like that for Panarin? Eichel >>> Panarin and it's not close.
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May 29, 2020 at 6:14 a.m.
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Nah. Scheifele's contract is better. Probably Draisaitl's as well due to their term.


If we're including length than yeah, Scheifs is better but for the next 2 years can't really argue Zibanejads 5.35M caphit for 40+ goals and well over a ppg potential. Draisaitls is good among other high paid starts but its not necessarily cheap, at that point I'd take Sid
May 29, 2020 at 6:54 a.m.
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Eichel is not worth a whole arsenal. from those guys i'd do Krav+Chytil but the other two are untoachable. I edited the trade, tell me what you thinl


Why isn't he? He's easily a top 10 player in the league
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May 29, 2020 at 7:33 a.m.
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I love how someone starts a thread called realistic trade offer with something completely realistic. So let's give the Rangers fans a comparable package for Zibanajad and the Eichel will be happy because they will have a legit 2C and be ready to win. So the Sabres get Zibanejad and the Rangers 2nd in exchange for
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Why isn't he? He's easily a top 10 player in the league


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2 worthwhile pieces, a gamble and junk (Strome is a 3C at best and will soon be an overpaid 3C). I love the idiocy that Buffalo is sending back a 2nd and that a 4th is even involved. would you take a package like that for Panarin? Eichel >>> Panarin and it's not close.


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But as you just said, only 2 more years of Zibanejad. Because of that, more would need to Head to Buffalo. Maybe not multiple pieces but definitely more.


Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Sabres decline quickly, they definitely don't need another RD, especially an offensive minded one, Georgiev and Strome combined maybe worth a mid 1st, then two middle six prospects

Think the trade would be more like Fox, Chytil, Buch, Georgiev and a 1st, maybe more


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Anything "realistic" with Eichel and NYR starts with Kakko.


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Stop it your making me uncomfortable


Quoting: buffbry
I think you forgot to add in chytyl, kravtsov, zibanajed and kakko


I love it how someone names a thread a realistic offer for someone and then is completely realistic. If that is what it takes to get an elite player like Eichel then the Sabres easily pass and they acquire an elite center that will make them good and able to win now, thus making Jack happy. So here is a comparable offer for Zibanejad. Buffalo gets Zibanejad and the Rangers 2nd in exchange for the Sabres 4th, Linus Ulmark, Montour, Middlestadt and Victor Oloffson. Deal right?? Before anyone replies with how Eichel is unhappy so the Sabres have to trade him, any great competitive player would be unhappy losing, but he has lots of term left and has never said he doesn't want to be in Buffalo. So unless someone wants to severely overpay or Eichel asks out of Buffalo the Sabres are not going to consider moving him
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May 29, 2020 at 7:42 a.m.
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So here is a comparable offer for Zibanejad. Buffalo gets Zibanejad and the Rangers 2nd in exchange for the Sabres 4th, Linus Ulmark, Montour, Middlestadt and Victor Oloffson. Deal right?? Before anyone replies with how Eichel is unhappy so the Sabres have to trade him, any great competitive player would be unhappy losing, but he has lots of term left and has never said he doesn't want to be in Buffalo. So unless someone wants to severely overpay or Eichel asks out of Buffalo the Sabres are not going to consider moving him


A truly comparable offer wouldn't include Oloffson. It would include Okposo. lol

Even if Eichel did request a trade they don't have to trade him. When you're talking about a top 5 C a trade request still gets you 10-20 competing offers so it doesn't lower the return much if at all.
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May 29, 2020 at 8:36 a.m.
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Eichel is not worth a whole arsenal. from those guys i'd do Krav+Chytil but the other two are untoachable. I edited the trade, tell me what you thinl


Are you kidding? Eichel is a top player in the league. The trade is nowhere near "realistic."
May 29, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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laugh laugh Not even remotely realistic.
 
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