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What would Troubas value be in an unlikely hypothetical trade

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Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2020
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    He can obviously play but his contract is obviously expensive. Curious what the value would come out to. He's somewhere very much in the middle of a top RHD and a pure cap dump
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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    rangers just should not trade low on him
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
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    Similar to what they paid. Late 1st + solid B prospect/ young middle 6/4 NHLer. Or equivalent LHD (Hanifin/Toews)
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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    Very little with his contract. His production took a bit hit and he makes the same amount as guys who can score 60-70 points in the same position while being about the same defensively
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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    Ghost for Trouba as a base?

    Or

    Flyers 2020 First
    Ratcliff/Rubstov/Allison (one of)
    Cap dump
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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    Very little with his contract. His production took a bit hit and he makes the same amount as guys who can score 60-70 points in the same position while being about the same defensively


    One question is whether Trouba needed the year to get used to the Rangers system. Dougie Hamilton took a year in both Calgary and Carolina before hitting stride.

    What convolutes this discussion is the insane quality of depth the Rangers have at RD. Deangelo AND Fox..... so the question maybe is Trouba redundant on that blueline?

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Could make an arguement for both too.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.
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    One question is whether Trouba needed the year to get used to the Rangers system. Dougie Hamilton took a year in both Calgary and Carolina before hitting stride.

    What convolutes this discussion is the insane quality of depth the Rangers have at RD. Deangelo AND Fox..... so the question maybe is Trouba redundant on that blueline?

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Could make an arguement for both too.


    I’d say he probably is, but I don’t think your going to find a team willing to give you anything like the 1st plus you paid for him so maybe better to hold on to
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: swinny
    One question is whether Trouba needed the year to get used to the Rangers system. Dougie Hamilton took a year in both Calgary and Carolina before hitting stride.

    What convolutes this discussion is the insane quality of depth the Rangers have at RD. Deangelo AND Fox..... so the question maybe is Trouba redundant on that blueline?

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Could make an arguement for both too.


    Or you could make an argument that Ruff is the worst coach to run a d-core and every d-man who leaves his system « magically » improves... Pionk, Shattenkirk, Skjei...
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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    I wouldn't touch Trouba without a retention.

    He's a solid top four RHD but he is really overpaid for what he provides.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: papishark
    I’d say he probably is, but I don’t think your going to find a team willing to give you anything like the 1st plus you paid for him so maybe better to hold on to


    Flat cap strikes again!!!

    Agreed. Most conclude that Trouba didn't want to play north of the 49th. And where Ottawa would be such a fantastic fit (Chabot and Trouba first pairing? Hells ya!), I think he would be refusing to report. Winnipeg is a well run organization and he wanted out. Doubt he would want to be joining a circus.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Or you could make an argument that Ruff is the worst coach to run a d-core and every d-man who leaves his system « magically » improves... Pionk, Shattenkirk, Skjei...


    We can certainly entertain that as well. It's Ruff. Was never a fan. Never.

    Luke Richardson pulled unicorns out of his a** with Montreal's blueline. A good coach goes a long long way.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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    Ottawa gives up:
    33OA
    One of: Duclair (probably not as he was already in NY), Tierney, Brown
    Could add another 3rd or 4th to have them retain some salary
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: swinny
    One question is whether Trouba needed the year to get used to the Rangers system. Dougie Hamilton took a year in both Calgary and Carolina before hitting stride.

    What convolutes this discussion is the insane quality of depth the Rangers have at RD. Deangelo AND Fox..... so the question maybe is Trouba redundant on that blueline?

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Could make an arguement for both too.


    I agree. I don’t think rangers should give up on trouba yet. He may take a year like Hamilton. They should sell high on DeAngelo. Can’t forget about Nils Lundqvist in the pipeline as well. They are absolutely STACKED on the right side. They gotta move at least one RHD this offseason for a LHD and I say move Tony D
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Not much because he's $1 million overpaid, And he would only agree to either go to the Rangers or Red Wings. So you don't have much of a choice there.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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    Double
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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    If NYR really wants to move him now is the time before his NMC kicks in.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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    I agree. I don’t think rangers should give up on trouba yet. He may take a year like Hamilton. They should sell high on DeAngelo. Can’t forget about Nils Lundqvist in the pipeline as well. They are absolutely STACKED on the right side. They gotta move at least one RHD this offseason for a LHD and I say move Tony D


    Depending on the contract demand, it may happen. On the surface it appears the Rangers have the money to keep it together, but I don't see Deangelo taking a discount after he did so last season. He is gonna want to get paid.

    Just not sure who can a) afford that contract and b) afford the assets to obtain and sign him.

    We can bring up Ottawa again, but I don't see it. Jersey? Not without moving Subban. LA? Don't see them giving up the assets. Detroit? Hronek and Seider. Montreal? Weber and Petry.... Now Anahiem..... that could be a possibility, but they have an internal cap.

    He would be very tough to move imo.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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    Ottawa gives up:
    33OA
    One of: Duclair (probably not as he was already in NY), Tierney, Brown
    Could add another 3rd or 4th to have them retain some salary


    Yeah well Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada, So the Senators aren't an option.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: sens2020
    Ottawa gives up:
    33OA
    One of: Duclair (probably not as he was already in NY), Tierney, Brown
    Could add another 3rd or 4th to have them retain some salary


    Yeah well Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada, So the Senators aren't an option.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Yeah well Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada, So the Senators aren't an option.


    Well he doesn't have a NMC until next season so that wouldn't be a problem
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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    Depending on the contract demand, it may happen. On the surface it appears the Rangers have the money to keep it together, but I don't see Deangelo taking a discount after he did so last season. He is gonna want to get paid.

    Just not sure who can a) afford that contract and b) afford the assets to obtain and sign him.

    We can bring up Ottawa again, but I don't see it. Jersey? Not without moving Subban. LA? Don't see them giving up the assets. Detroit? Hronek and Seider. Montreal? Weber and Petry.... Now Anahiem..... that could be a possibility, but they have an internal cap.

    He would be very tough to move imo.


    Any team that acquired him will have to send cap back. I could see a trade involving Vegas and NYR. Maybe something around Schmidt for Tony D? Vegas has too many LHD and NYR doesn’t have any quality ones really.
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    Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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    Ghost for Trouba as a base?

    Or

    Flyers 2020 First
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    Cap dump


    Ghost as a base would be a no go, Ghost has little to no value Trouba has some and is worth more then Ghost by a bit. Need to be someone better then Ghost as a base.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Well he doesn't have a NMC until next season so that wouldn't be a problem


    Could be wrong, But i'm pretty sure his NMC kicks in July 1st. And he would refuse to report to any Canadian club i would imagine.
    Jun. 9, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Could be wrong, But i'm pretty sure his NMC kicks in July 1st. And he would refuse to report to any Canadian club i would imagine.


    Obviously pushed back till shortly after cup. So, yes he could be traded to any team, but no organization would do that. Possibility of going to a hand full of American teams though. He is overpaid by 1m and worth his paid price, a 1st and good kid. I'm betting on him stepping up, as soon as QR. The fact that he fits in nicely with our young aggressive d makes him a keeper anyway. Him or TDa can play Ld.
    Jun. 10, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Ghost as a base would be a no go, Ghost has little to no value Trouba has some and is worth more then Ghost by a bit. Need to be someone better then Ghost as a base.


    Although I agree Trouba has more value I fail to see how Ghost has little to none. He was hurt and started to play better as he became more healthy. He isn’t going to stun you defensively but on offense we’ve all seen what he’s capable of. Add to that his contract and ability to play either side. Philly adds most definitely but not a great deal.
     
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