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Leafs Doo Doo Solved

Created by: Amakiir
Initial Creation Date: Jun 13, 2020
Published: Jun 13, 2020 at 12:03
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya3$3,400,000
Dermott, Travis3$2,600,000
Gauthier, Frédérik2$750,000
Malgin, Denis2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1$750,000
Pietrangelo, Alex5$8,000,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Kane, Evander
  2. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
SJS
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Andersen, Frederik
TOR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (PHI)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TBL
TOR
COL
PHI
TOR
VGK
PHI
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
PHI
PIT
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$83,418,450$0$0-$1,918,450
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
SJS
Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 5
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Malgin, Denis
$750,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$750,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Pietrangelo, Alex
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Woll, Joseph
$800,000
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$2,600,000
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Rosén, Calle
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun 13, 2020 at 12:06
#1
StarWars addict here
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Hahahahaha Kane can't skate properly no thx
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:07
#2
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If Kane's first name was Patrick, than this trade might be ok.
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:16
#3
WingusAmingus
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Three first round picks maybe makes it interesting enough for the leafs? Throw in a Sorensen or meckler karlsson type. I’d never trade marner.
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:25
#4
2018 Canucks
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Quoting: NoDeke
Three first round picks maybe makes it interesting enough for the leafs? Throw in a Sorensen or meckler karlsson type. I’d never trade marner.


At his contract & 3-1sts dreaming
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:35
#5
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Hahahahaha Kane can't skate properly no thx


Kane is one our fastest skaters and hardest hitters oh and he’s a 30 goal scorer to boot what are you talking about he can’t skate
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:36
#6
StarWars addict here
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Kane is one our fastest skaters and hardest hitters oh and he’s a 30 goal scorer to boot what are you talking about he can’t skate


I feel like he is a bit too slow for a top 6 role in TOR
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:36
#7
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Kane is one our fastest skaters and hardest hitters oh and he’s a 30 goal scorer to boot what are you talking about he can’t skate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7rlddl_rW8

Don't know, feels a bit slow there...
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:37
#8
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Watch film he’s faster than any other power forward I know of!
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:38
#9
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward


That was more ice and puck issue than speed watch more film
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Jun 13, 2020 at 12:39
#10
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
That was more ice and puck issue than speed watch more film


I did and I don't know, I feel like he was a bit faster a few years ago... maybe injury issues?
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:39
#11
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7rlddl_rW8

Don't know, feels a bit slow there...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mrqKPXkj7hg
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Jun 13, 2020 at 12:40
#12
GM CRIME DAWG
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Doo doo NOT sign Ilya M. to that contract ^ ^!!
Way too much $$; be right back in Doo Doo Land before the ink dries...
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:41
#13
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
I did and I don't know, I feel like he was a bit faster a few years ago... maybe injury issues?


More ****ty ice in San Jose since they brought the all team to the same arena lots of double headers with little recovery time
San Jose needs to work on their ice quality
Jun 13, 2020 at 12:42
#14
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Regardless I’m not interested in this trade at all
Kane for nylander is more my speed
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Jun 13, 2020 at 1:51
#15
NHL Trade Inspector
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That sharks trade is so bad for the leafs. That 1st round pick will be in the late 20's-last. plus dont want a 100min penalty taker in kane. No thank you. Pass
Also that philly trade is also a pass. Liligren is a late bloomer and is worth way more than that. rather have him continue his development then trade him for nothing
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Jun 13, 2020 at 4:16
#16
Marner Stan Account
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Edited Jun 13, 2020 at 4:22
Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Regardless I’m not interested in this trade at all
Kane for nylander is more my speed


@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?
Jun 13, 2020 at 4:19
#17
Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?


Marner by about a million miles. Their not comparable. Nylander is also better, on a cheaper contract and 4 years younger.
Jun 13, 2020 at 4:57
#18
Tired of Studying
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?


Marner. It's not even a question, really.

Marner achieved a point total in his first season that Kane has yet to achieve...
Jun 13, 2020 at 5:00
#19
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?


what a silly question, Mitch Marner's worst season is better than Kane's best season
Jun 13, 2020 at 5:59
#20
NHL Trade Inspector
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?


Marner for 3 reasons. 1. He is younger 2. He is better 3. Does not rack up 100 penalty minutes a season
Jun 13, 2020 at 6:54
#21
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Regardless I’m not interested in this trade at all
Kane for nylander is more my speed


It's not a bad idea but Marner is too much to solve the D problem. This actually fully addresses it.

I think this team would sweep the Bruins. No more getting bullied either. This is a playoff team.
Jun 13, 2020 at 7:00
#22
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
@firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle

Who’d you guys think is the better player between Mitch Marner & Evander Kane?


1) feel free to send me your recommendations
2) yes Marner is better but the trade comes with 3 picks. Not sure you saw that. And if you feel the compensation isn't right then bump one up.
3) @firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle
Same goes for you, I'd like to see your recommendations. Instead of being fan boys, I'd make the tough decision to get rid of Marner so we can actually solve the D problem. Raps won making that sacrifice.
Jun 13, 2020 at 7:01
#23
GM CRIME DAWG
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Quoting: L_FACTOR
It's not a bad idea but Marner is too much to solve the D problem. This actually fully addresses it.

I think this team would sweep the Bruins. No more getting bullied either. This is a playoff team.


& in Goal? hahaha...
Jun 13, 2020 at 7:11
#24
Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: L_FACTOR
1) feel free to send me your recommendations
2) yes Marner is better but the trade comes with 3 picks. Not sure you saw that. And if you feel the compensation isn't right then bump one up.
3) @firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle
Same goes for you, I'd like to see your recommendations. Instead of being fan boys, I'd make the tough decision to get rid of Marner so we can actually solve the D problem. Raps won making that sacrifice.


Well they got Kawhi back, who although struggling with injury was a far better player then DeRozan. The Raps sacrificed their future knowing that Kawhi was unlikely to resign. The Leafs are doing the opposite here. The best analogy I got is trading Nylander for Ovi this offseason knowing Ovi will go back to the Caps after 1 year. (In general superstars in basketball are far more important then in hockey. Imagine if the leafs only had to play 7 players every game, they'd be SO good, right?)

Except with this trade not only do we get older and lose long term viability but we get worse. Kane isn't even in the same realm as Marner, and do you really think a 2nd and 3rd changes much? That's like offering Nylander and Kerfoot to Vegas for Stone, if Stone was 8 years younger. Kane also gets 100+ PIM a year and given the Leafs shaky PK it really doesn't make sense to trade for him of all people.

It's estimated that Kane's penalties meant an extra 10~ goals scored against the Sharks on a yearly basis, so instead of Kane being a 30 goal scorer he's effectively a 20 goal scorer and 50 pt scorer. That sounds a lot like Mikheyev or Kapanen to me...
Jun 13, 2020 at 7:26
#25
Marner Stan Account
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Edited Jun 13, 2020 at 7:33
Quoting: L_FACTOR
1) feel free to send me your recommendations
2) yes Marner is better but the trade comes with 3 picks. Not sure you saw that. And if you feel the compensation isn't right then bump one up.
3) @firezfurx @justaBoss @JaredOfLondon @aadoyle
Same goes for you, I'd like to see your recommendations. Instead of being fan boys, I'd make the tough decision to get rid of Marner so we can actually solve the D problem. Raps won making that sacrifice.


I have no issues with trading Marner, I was just questioning that @rob32sjsharks guy since he claimed Kane was a better player than Marner, therefore, he wouldn’t do the trade from a Sharks perspective. Your team is good except Pietrangelo doesn’t sign. He wants 10-11 Million for 6-7 years.
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