Do these trades work

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Created by: OldmanWebber

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2020

Published: Jun. 16, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

1. Winnipeg trade: Now I don't think that Winnipeg moves Ehlers, no, but if they did, would this be enough? To me this seems like fair value.
2. St Louis Blues trade: To me this seems like an overpay by Montreal but I would be willing to do it to strengthen our LD now instead of 2 or 3 years from now. Blues get cap relief to sign their captain, as well as a serviceable player in Mete and a very good defensemen prospect in Struble. I really feel that the draft pick in this should be going to Montreal not from Montreal where they are Buying out Steen and taking the full salary from Allen, but I think getting Dunn is worth the overpay.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Evans, Jake	3	$975,000
Hudon, Charles	1	$875,000
Juulsen, Noah	2	$900,000
Ouellet, Xavier	1	$800,000
Vejdemo, Lukas	2	$813,000
McNiven, Michael	2	$700,000
Blandisi, Joseph	1	$723,000
Dunn, Vince	2	$2,333,333

Trades

MTL

Ehlers, Nikolaj

WPG

Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
Ylönen, Jesse
2020 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

STL

Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
2020 3rd round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Montreal agrees to buy out Steen so he can sign back with the Blues and league minimum. Montreal also takes Allens full salary. They also send back a serviceable dman in Mete and a good dman prospect in Struble along with a middle pick.

Buyouts

Alexander Steen: $3,416,667

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$78,547,976	$0	$3,137,500	$2,952,024

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2	Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Evans, Jake $975,000$975,000 C UFA - 2
Hudon, Charles $875,000$875,000 C, LW, RW UFA		Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 6
Dunn, Vince $2,333,333$2,333,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Juulsen, Noah $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 1	Allen, Jake $4,350,000$4,350,000 G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.

zk97

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WPG seems fair
STL overpay

Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.

Howisjulienstillhere

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Don’t like the first trade. Can’t see stl making the second deal

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere

Don’t like the first trade. Can’t see stl making the second deal

STL would be crazy not to make the second deal.

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.

Howisjulienstillhere

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Quoting: OldmanWebber

STL would be crazy not to make the second deal.

One year of steen. A good backup and a solid young d

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere

One year of steen. A good backup and a solid young d

They need cap space to sign their Captain. That gives them that. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.

BluesBandit

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Tough to decide as a Blues fan. I think the value’s there but I’m not keen on giving up Dunn. I think we may be able to get rid of Steen for whatever we get back in an Allen deal. We’re also probably moving Bozak and he’ll bring back assets we can use to get a team to take on Steen if we choose. I’d say no to the deal because of these factors, but a very fair offer.

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.

mnwild1790

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Quoting: OldmanWebber

They need cap space to sign their Captain. That gives them that. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

Yeah but you're trading away their best LD to resign the Captain. I think St Louis finds a different route where they offload Steen's contract on a team, which should be enough to resign Pietrangelo and keep Dunn. I think they'll be hesitant to downgrade from Dunn to Mete instead of offloading a less important player to find cap space

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.

OldmanWebber

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Quoting: BluesBandit

Got you thinking, that's something...lol

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.

A_K

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Might be a hot take but I'd rather have the next 8 years of Dunn versus the next 8 years of Pietrangelo, all things considered - younger, cheaper, more balanced with Parayko-Faulk already on the right side. Now if there is a way to sign Petro without losing Dunn, I'm all for it. (And there is, but it's more complicated than what can typically happen in an offseason, especially one with no cap increase.)

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Jun. 16, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.

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palhal

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If I'm a Habs fan, I'm pissed that the Canadian have 3.6m in dead buyout cap and about 2.5m paying too much for backup. Couldn't that 6m be used to acquire a real player? Gee, you signed Dunn for just 2.3, and 6.1m is just wasted.

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