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Created by: ek_65

Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2020

Published: Jul. 10, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Don't see how/why any of Johnson, Palat, Gourde, McDonagh. Coburn, etc. waive their trade clause to leave a contender and great place to play. Killorn unfortunately has to be moved. See room for Cirelli and Cernak to stay, but think Sergachev is the odd guy out. Moved to LA for a cheap NHL top 4 D in Roy, future top 6 scorer in Vilardi who's finally healthy and on an ELC and two 2nd rounders. In addition, I swapped Petersen for McElhinney. I see how LA makes this deal with the 2nd OA coming their way, but wonder how Tampa feels. They are getting 3 full younger guys with great upside and making under $1M , which is exactly what they need but value is a little off.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Joseph, Mathieu	1	$800,000
Stephens, Mitchell	1	$850,000
Cernak, Erik	1	$2,000,000
Verhaeghe, Carter	2	$715,000
Cirelli, Anthony	2	$3,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hamhuis, Dan		1	$900,000

Trades

TBL

2020 2nd round pick (COL)

SJS

Killorn, Alex

TBL

2020 6th round pick (ANA)

ANA

Paquette, Cédric

Additional Details:

anywhere

TBL

Petersen, Cal
Roy, Matt
Vilardi, Gabriel
2020 2nd round pick (LAK)
2020 2nd round pick (VAN)

LAK

McElhinney, Curtis
Sergachev, Mikhail [RFA Rights]

Buyouts

Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$81,418,424	$0	$1,350,000	$81,576

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Point, Brayden $6,750,000$6,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 7
Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 2	Cirelli, Anthony $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 4
Coleman, Blake $1,800,000$1,800,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Vilardi, Gabriel $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, C RFA - 2	Gourde, Yanni $5,166,666$5,166,666 C, LW, RW NTC UFA - 5
	Stephens, Mitchell $850,000$850,000 C UFA - 2	Goodrow, Barclay $925,000$925,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Joseph, Mathieu $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Barré-Boulet, Alex $759,258$759,258 RW, LW UFA - 1
Verhaeghe, Carter $715,000$715,000 LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 5	Cernak, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $9,500,000$9,500,000 G UFA - 8
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 6	Roy, Matt $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD NTC UFA - 1	Foote, Cal $925,000$925,000 ($500,000$500K) RD RFA - 1	Petersen, Cal $858,333$858,333 G UFA - 2
Hamhuis, Dan $900,000$900,000 LD UFA

Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.

gregb569

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I don't think MS is worth that much

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.

Lenny7

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Jeeez...cheaper for the Kings just to offer sheet him.

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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That LA trade is quite possibly the worst trade I've seen in the history of this website.

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

That LA trade is quite possibly the worst trade I've seen in the history of this website.

Bad? Yes, worst? Doubtful, Just a couple posts ago I saw Marner + Liljegreen + a 1st for Pesce. I'm a big Pesce fan but that is not close at all

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.

Jexus

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Sharks accept and Wilson buys BriseBois dinner as a thank you.

Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.

ZiggyPalffy

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Quoting: gregb569

I don't think MS is worth that much

He's not. Lol

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Vilardi and the VAN 2nd could pass as "fair value" for Sergachev. I still wouldn't do that trade if I were LA, but that would be a reasonable trade proposal.

So after that, you decide to throw in the Kings best defenseman from last year, their goaltender of the future, and an extra 2nd? But hey, you're sending back a 37-year old career backup goaltender, so it must be fair.

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Cirelli signing is way under,And Sergachev wont be a King so move on.

Jul. 10, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Cirelli signing is way under,And Sergachev wont be a King so move on.

Oooh, someone is poking the BF bear.

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

That LA trade is quite possibly the worst trade I've seen in the history of this website.

Not close.

Jakob Silfverberg for Brandon Dubinsky, Sonny Milano and a 2020 sixth-round pick
see https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/1234712

Alec Martinez (with $2 million retained) for Russian returnee Nikita Tryamkin and a 2022 fourth that only becomes a third if Tryamkin never comes back to North America
see https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/296754

Tyler Toffoli even-up for Colton Parayko
see https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1721083

Jakob Silfverberg and Anaheim’s 2021 second for Ristolainen

Max Domi for Ristolainen

Mikael Backlund for Risto and Marcus Davidsson

Jeff Petry ($1.5MM retained) for Peyton Krebs, Jon Merrill, Las Vegas 2020 first and St Louis 2021 second (Price_is_the_goat)

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Casey Mittelstadt and Tage Thompson (Cpc114)

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Possible hyperbole, but I stick with my original assessment.

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Jul. 10, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Possible hyperbole, but I stick with my original assessment.

C'mon. With hindsight, don't the first two trades (you can see how long I've been collecting these) achieve true greatness?

Jul. 10, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.

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tkecanuck341

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

C'mon. With hindsight, don't the first two trades (you can see how long I've been collecting these) achieve true greatness?

Link to the first one is broken. I'll admit they're pretty bad. I'll claim recency bias.

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