Yes from Buffalo!

Buffalo takes that and runs

so the domi to Buff trades I see on here range from: 8th overall to Rasmus Risto. My guess is, a fair trade would be somewhere in between those values.

yeah but probably a little closer to 8th overall

thats fair. Montreal can drop the 2nd here, i would be fine with ristolainen for domi straight across.

Sabres fan here
I don’t think MTL would need to add the 2nd

Risto & Domi as the main pieces in a deal is an interesting idea,
but with Weber & Petry, does MTL need a RH defenseman?
Or is the thinking here to get younger at that spot?

Petry wont be signed next year and the pipeline is thin at RHD. Plus Weber isn’t getting younger.

Risto and the 8OA for Domi and the 9OA?

It would be a smart move from BUF since they will probably loose Risto to Seattle anyway.

I think the Sabres take that easily. There should still be the same caliber player available at 9 o/a

Isn't Ristolainen a Right D? How does that help the Habs, who need Left D. The only way this deal makes sense is if the Habs trade Petry for top six forward, then you can plug Ristolainen behind Weber and you won t have to give Petry 7.5M x 5 next season.

Gotcha. I knew Weber was under contract for a while, didn’t check Perry’s status. Makes more sense now.
Could just trade Petry at the deadline then & get a decent return I’d think

It would be the case only if they are out of a playoff race, so that wont happen

Let say Bergevin needs to be all in for a long playoff run with 4 UFAs to be and finally show some results to keep his job. I bet like Columbus did last year.

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I like how you began by asking how a RHD would even be helpfull and then answered yourself with the precise reason why!

Yeah but the habs say no.

Domi > risto

And a 1 pick difference isn’t enough for habs to make the trade

I would agree. I think the Sabres would likely add a 2021 second or with similar value to this trade. Perhaps Tage Thompson or Ryan Johnson.

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Other than this trades helps Buffalo right now than it helps Montreal right now, I do not know why Buffalo would need to add much if at all.
Both teams are trading from surplus, Montreal makes that trade to get younger.
Ristolainen is consistent, he hits, he plays against the other teams top lines, eats up minutes like candy, he has a decent contract with years remaining, he wants to win and he would be Montreal's most physical player.
I would not trade him for anything less than Domi because, we have not seen the best of Ristolainen yet, think Domi is what he is.
I would only add to the trade because the Sabres need a #2 C more than a forth RHD.

While @Everithingmustgo31 has not had a lot of posts he has traded Domi for a defenseman before: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1624063 Brodin, Jonas one for one.

EDIT:
My afterthought
How many on this site would laugh at the idea of trading Ristolainen to Montreal for the 9th OA.
Now here most are essentially making the case that is a good fair exchange.

Risto has played over 120 more games than Domi and two more seasons in the NHL. Both are very close to being what they are at this level. If there is more room for growth it is on the side for Domi who is also 6 months younger. Risto has alot of good qualities but Domi is clearly the better all around player. Risto has some major flaws and when playing top pair minutes those get exposed heavily. As a second or third pair defenseman not going against the top lines of other teams night in night out I think his advanced numbers will improve. If given the same role as a 25 minute a night top pairing guy he will be exposed wherever he ends up.

domi is clear cut the better player than Risto. Its hard to compare forwards to D, but risto is easily one of the worst D in the league in his own zone. He may have a higher perceived value than on ice stats, so a team may overpay, but I would steer clear of him

Hard to argue when the guy is - 145 in his career, but I do believe his numbers would look better playing with Chariot and Price. He's not perfect, but he can play 22 prime minutes while generating offense. Only Dumba (Trouba is untouchable) would be a better fit as a first pair RHD with puck moving skills.

Also, Risto's contract basicaly makes him a 2 year rental before becoming a UFA even if Bergevin could try to pull the same trick as Petry) . The fact that Domi's still on a RFA's contract gives a team the possibility to lock him for the next 8 years. That gap alone increases Domi's value compared to Risto.

Here’s the thing though...
while there are GMs that will look at Analytics & have a similar opinion to you,
there are other GMs who do like him a lot & realize that his numbers suffer from being on such a bad team for so long

Risto does have the ability to be a very good top4 defenseman on a good team
And IF the Sabres did trade him, it would be to a team that valued him
They would give him away to a GM who has an opinion of him like you do

So he’ll either be traded for a good return,
or he won’t be traded at all

*and it seems like our new Coach, Ralph Kruger, really likes Risto & would rather move Montour or Miller- both have seemingly been in his doghouse
It’s been assumed by many that Kruger now has a bigger say in personnel too, now that our old GM has been fired & replaces with someone who has no front office experience

Risto’s numbers will no doubt improve on a better team
Guys like Kane & O’Reilly left, and all of the sudden they were better
Guys like Sheary, Berglund, Vesey, etc etc etc come here & put up worse numbers- Why? bc we’ve been such a crappy overall team

And Domi has flaws himself...
that’s why he’s supposedly “on the market”
If he really was that dominant 70point Center we saw 2yrs ago,
then there’d be no way MTL would be willing to trade him

I think both are “good” but not “great” players

Very good post sir. Well said
Idk about pick9, but I’d do it if MTL would

Personally, i think I’d rather trade Montour than Risto though.
And it sounds like Ralph thinks the same way

Yeah, that’s true too
But maybe u could trade Petry for something that would help you now & in the future

I do get what you’re saying though

I just think Risto has been such a waste / poor asset management for the sabres. You are right, Other GMs do value him, yet for whatever reason so does sabres management. They turned down a trade involving hall for risto!!! Could you imagine what the sabres would’ve looked like headed into the 2016/17 season with a top 6 of Eichal, Hall, ROR, and Reinhart? I’m betting they wouldn’t have been a bottom feeding team that year and while they may not have landed Dahlin, they would’ve been inching closer to the goal of finally making the playoffs. Whether it was botteril or previous management, risto should’ve been traded ages ago because his “perceived value” is better than his on ice results. And it’s not even just his analytics. Watching him playing 24 minutes a game is painful. Maybe you’re right, in a different environment playing less minutes he may be an effective blue liner. But the way he’s used in buffalo is awful.

Yeah,
that trade we turned down for Hall is horrible looking back
But i agree we wouldn’t have gotten Dahlin
And at the time, we really had no other good defensemen besides Risto, which is why we had to turn down the deal
Definitely hurts though

And for me, it’s not JUST how we use Risto, it’s that he suffers from playing so many minutes on a bad team
For example:
If we were to swap Risto & Pietrangelo, Risto’s numbers would go up & Pietrangelo’s would go down
I’m not saying they’re the same player... just that analytics numbers for defensemen especially will fluctuate depending on the team around you
Look at Doughty
Is he suddenly a bad defenseman?
Or is it that the Kings suck now?

Risto is no superstar by any means
But i do think he’s a “good” player who would benefit highly from being on a better team, and suffers from being on a bad one