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Vegas Buyout Flower

Created by: CHUG
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 20, 2020
Published: Jul. 20, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Flower comes in and mentors Jarry for a couple years before retiring a Penguin
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$3,000,000
2$2,500,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$800,000
1$850,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$4,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Fleury, Marc-André ($3,500,000 retained)
VGK
    signed after buyout for 1-2 years
    2.
    3.
    PIT
    1. 2020 7th round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Björkqvist, Kasper
    2. Johnson, Jack
    3. Riikola, Juuso [RFA Rights]
    4. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
    4.
    PIT
    1. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
    5.
    PIT
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
    CGY
    1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the WSH
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the NJD
    2021
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the ANA
    2022
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$76,077,675$0$1,245,000$5,422,325

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
    $0$0
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
    #1
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    If Fleury gets bought out, he should sign with PIT for the league minimum, cuz that’s what he’s worth at this point. He stinks.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    If Fleury gets bought out, he should sign with PIT for the league minimum, cuz that’s what he’s worth at this point. He stinks.


    Thats just flat out wrong
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Fleury, He has some value. Just his NTC hurts his value because he'll only waive for a contending team. And they can't afford his 2x7 left on his deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Fleury, He has some value. Just his NTC hurts his value because he'll only waive for a contending team. And they can't afford his 2x7 left on his deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Fleury, He has some value. Just his NTC hurts his value because he'll only waive for a contending team. And they can't afford his 2x7 left on his deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Fleury, He has some value. Just his NTC hurts his value because he'll only waive for a contending team. And they can't afford his 2x7 left on his deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
    Thats just flat out wrong


    https://jfresh.substack.com/p/marc-andre-fleury-is-the-most-overrated
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.
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    Oilers accept and think Pittsburg will be very happy and surprised how useful Russell really is.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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    DeSmith? no thanks, no interest in this AHL netminder
    Habs counter offer: Kulak & a 5th for a 2nd rounder
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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    Why would the Devils take a cap hit for nothing?
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.
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    If the Flames believe Murray is a better long term option than Rittich, I can't see them saying no to that deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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    So an article written by an average nobody is suppose to mean something?
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
    So an article written by an average nobody is suppose to mean something?


    JFresh is one of the most respected analysts in hockey currently. He supports his arguments with factual evidence. If you took time to read the article, you’ll see that Fleury is extremely prone to allowing soft goals. Goals saved above expected determines the quality of each shot a goalie faces & this season, he has given up 25 more than he should. That is brutal & a big reason to why he’s being replaced by Lehner.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Fleury, He has some value. Just his NTC hurts his value because he'll only waive for a contending team. And they can't afford his 2x7 left on his deal.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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    Vegas isn't buying out Flower this year. Not happening.

    And the Leafs fan is just salty because if they had MAF they might have won a playoff round some time in the last decade and a half.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    Oilers accept and think Pittsburg will be very happy and surprised how useful Russell really is.


    You'd trade Rusty for a guy with a broken back?
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
    So an article written by an average nobody is suppose to mean something?


    But what would JFresh trade for Marner... that's the question...

    I did not read the blog post either, but skimming real quick I fully justify my not reading the blog post because JFresh infers that Pittsburgh fielded good defense in front of Fleury. All one has to do is get their nose out of nearly useless advanced stats and watch some games to know that that is a 100% trash position.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
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    Just for discussion on the topic of buying out Fleury...
    Buyout would cost Vegas $8,333,333 in actual money
    $2,583,333, $3,083,333, $2,083,333, $2,083,333 cap hits.

    Trading while retaining 50% for cost $6,250,000 actual money
    $3,500,000, $3,500,000, $0, $0 cap.

    Retaining 50% would save them $2,083,333 cash
    $916,667, $416,667, -$2,083,333, -$2,083,333 cap cost

    If Vegas would seriously consider buying out Fleury, I think that it would be considerable better for them to trade him with 50% retention. the cap hit would be less than $1M then less than $500K more for the first two years, but then free of the $2.1M for the next two. That's huge. I am sure that they prefer the 50% retention route.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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    Oilers would definitely look at this deal. Depending on Nicks health this could be a step forward.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    You'd trade Rusty for a guy with a broken back?


    I’m a lot more in favour of moving an expiring contract from an area of depth to an area could use an extra body. I don’t think it would be wise to pay a team to take russell contract then pay a team for a 3c with term. I don’t like it but can accept the gamble doesn’t come with extra term or dollars. Use it as a band aid solution while allowing jones additional ice time earned. Mcloed is a guy I don’t think they will want to block by adding term. If sheahan isn’t resigned I suspect it’s Mcloed coming in. I think this is the best option of trying to dump Russell’s contract and add a c. He’s got a no trade the teams being limited to won’t be as easy as gets suggested. Let contracts expire and explore options then.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    You'd trade Rusty for a guy with a broken back?


    Don’t get me wrong I love rusty and would strongly consider resigning afterwards kinda same situation as ganger. It’s a deal I don’t like but see it as better than other current options also very fair to Pittsburg kinda sick of giving them d.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    I’m a lot more in favour of moving an expiring contract from an area of depth to an area could use an extra body. I don’t think it would be wise to pay a team to take russell contract then pay a team for a 3c with term. I don’t like it but can accept the gamble doesn’t come with extra term or dollars. Use it as a band aid solution while allowing jones additional ice time earned. Mcloed is a guy I don’t think they will want to block by adding term. If sheahan isn’t resigned I suspect it’s Mcloed coming in. I think this is the best option of trying to dump Russell’s contract and add a c. He’s got a no trade the teams being limited to won’t be as easy as gets suggested. Let contracts expire and explore options then.


    I understand where you're coming from, but there's a non-zero chance that Bjugstad will never play hockey again. So really you're trading a useful player for nothing at all... and you're spending nearly $4M real money for that privilege. Doesn't make a lick of sense.
    Jul. 20, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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    Thats just flat out wrong[/quote]

    this guys an idiot, you have to stop even giving him the time of day. came across his twitter and insta today by complete fluke making the same stupid marner is a cancer comments and other bs. just a troll

    https://twitter.com/Mikey51771189
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    Jul. 20, 2020 at 3:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
    Thats just flat out wrong


    this guys an idiot, you have to stop even giving him the time of day. came across his twitter and insta today by complete fluke making the same stupid marner is a cancer comments and other bs. just a troll

    https://twitter.com/Mikey51771189
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    Jul. 20, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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    I understand where you're coming from, but there's a non-zero chance that Bjugstad will never play hockey again. So really you're trading a useful player for nothing at all... and you're spending nearly $4M real money for that privilege. Doesn't make a lick of sense.


    Obviously trade would depend on medical evaluation. If he isn’t cleared to play then not happening. I don’t know his medical condition well enough to say he can be cleared or not.
     
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