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MTL helping VAN and STL with cap issue

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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2020
Published: Jul. 21, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,100,000
3$950,000
1$750,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
Trades
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2.
MTL
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
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MTL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2020 6th round pick (MTL)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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23$81,500,000$77,917,142$0$3,775,000$3,582,858
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
#26
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
and stl just trades him to ottawa, they need a starting goalie for next season anyway. or stl just moves bozak instead. both are easily done so what is montreals leverage.


Montreal doesn't need leverage in buying someone else's cap problem. Check the main site, more than enough teams are in cap hell. Montreal doesn't need the Blues.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Get real, dude. Lindgren is pure trash. He's utterly useless. And Allen, who has been among the top performing goalies since Jan. 2019, has solid value. This is not controversial or a secret. Most importantly, you aren't the only team in the league. We can happily take our business elsewhere. You won't be putting Army over a barrel.


I never claimed Lindgren was good, or Allen is bad. The whole idea is the Blues are spending $4,350,000 on a back-up goalie. Blues are at risk of losing players (most importantly their captain) and need to ditch cap. You are right, they can sell elsewhere, someone else will hold them over a barrel. Its gonna happen.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Sarakas
I don't see why Montreal would pay 4 mill for a backup when they have Price and his contract to worry about.


They have the space and need a solid back-up for the first time since, Halak? Primeau shouldn't be riding the bench.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Sarakas
I don't see why Montreal would pay 4 mill for a backup when they have Price and his contract to worry about.


Duh... Because you don't use cheap gas in a ferrari.
But in all seriousness, I don't think other fanbases realize how starved MTL has been for backup help.
This seems preferable then messing with Primeau's development . They have cap space for 1 year, might as well throw it all for a backup until Primeau plays a full AHL season
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
I never claimed Lindgren was good, or Allen is bad. The whole idea is the Blues are spending $4,350,000 on a back-up goalie. Blues are at risk of losing players (most importantly their captain) and need to ditch cap. You are right, they can sell elsewhere, someone else will hold them over a barrel. Its gonna happen.



You act like us shedding cap is the only benefit gained in a deal here. Honestly, it's amazing how fans can't comprehend their team needing to pay for better players these days. After all, so many deals have already set the precedence.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Curious, which 2 SHOULD Montreal keep?

I think Danault (or Tatar if we draft Lundell or Perfetti) and Domi. Gallagher I think plays a game where he won't be able to stay healthy soon, and its time to set aside the fans love for him and sell high.


Keep Danault and Gallagher. Tatar arguably should have been sold off for a kings ransom last trade deadline, if you included 50% retention I think he could ave gotten a good prospect and a 1st at the minimum, now he gets you that 1st but not the same prospect. Domi can be a key piece in a bigger trade if Bergevin wants to make a splash but i also think he can be kept for a fair price on a longer term deal.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
they still keep their 2021 1st. Domi and Boeser are almost a wash, Boeser is a bit better tho. You re-sign Markstrom and Toffoli. Then go after some sort of D-man in free agency or a trade


They still keep their 2021 pick if they don't do this deal. Domi is older and RFA next year. After signing Markstrom and Taffoli not much dollars for dmen. But my larger point is that Vancouver's core is young. They have time to wait out Eriksson's contract. It doesn't make sense to get older and shorten the window
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
You act like us shedding cap is the only benefit gained in a deal here. Honestly, it's amazing how fans can't comprehend their team needing to pay for better players these days. After all, so many deals have already set the precedence.


Ok, looking forward to seeing how the Blues get to keep their captain. I bet it will be the HOCKEY TRADE of the decade.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Ok, looking forward to seeing how the Blues get to keep their captain. I bet it will be the HOCKEY TRADE of the decade.



Yeah, me too. But it surely won't be one trade, and this one trade you've proposed wouldn't do the trick alone, either.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Yeah, me too. But it surely won't be one trade, and this one trade you've proposed wouldn't do the trick alone, either.


Nope, but its $3,600,000 in savings and came by pretty cheaply. But yeah, I am sure Sens or Wings are just itching at the idea of sending a high pick. We should hear from them now.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Nope, but its $3,600,000 in savings and came by pretty cheaply. But yeah, I am sure Sens or Wings are just itching at the idea of sending a high pick. We should hear from them now.



Oh, you mean those teams that need a starter? Yeah, I suppose they would pay more than a team looking for a back-up. Great point.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: BDIBIT
@B28 that’s your trade 🤜🏼🤛🏼

@reelkena wanna join conversation !!! You have a good management head


If Max Domi becomes a Canuck, I find a new team to root for. Even if it would make sense. Domi is an idiot. A bad teammate and the praise he's been getting (from Price I think) is because he needs ego coddling and everyone knows it. I would never do it.

Having said that. I'm also not paying Brock and Olli and something else to dump Loui when you could pay a lot less and dump Roussel and Sutter who combined cost more cap space. It's a no from Van. I just did a bunch of Jake Allen talk and I also agree he's worth more. I also cant imagine Mtl paying 15 million for goalies. Dumping Byron might be fine and I don't have intel on the contracts and if they are good or not. Sorry bro, I'm not with you this time.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.
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canucks decline but thanks for your offer of help.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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The Blues don't really need Lindgren, they have Husso. Allen is worth a pick himself (a 4th, maybe a 3rd) throwing him away + a pick to get a year of Lindgren and no pick doesn't make much sense,
Jul. 21, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.
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Habs do the STL and PHI deal but can’t do the Vancouver. Value is fine but we cannot take a 2 year cap dump like eriksson. It has to be one year left only since we have big signings next year and will need the space.
Jul. 21, 2020 at 8:39 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Ok, looking forward to seeing how the Blues get to keep their captain. I bet it will be the HOCKEY TRADE of the decade.


There's a reason why Armstrong is one of the best GMs in the league. Look at how he dealt with oshie and sobotka. He isn't going to blow up the entire team for one player. He's going to make moves to keep Petro but at the end of the day if he walks, he walks. There are a lot of teams that need a starter and one that proves his worth like Allen. Why would they trade allen to a team that needs him and pay to do so in the process.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 8:41 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
They have the space and need a solid back-up for the first time since, Halak? Primeau shouldn't be riding the bench.


Yes but 14 mill on goalies
Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Domi is 2 years older than Boeser, 10 years younger than Eriksson (and actually a good player). Not sure age should be much of an issue here. Juolevi, is he even considered a good prospect anymore?


Yes 2 years older is still older and closer to UFA. Domi is also an RFA next year. Juolevi still a prospect.
Aug. 14, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: reelkena
If Max Domi becomes a Canuck, I find a new team to root for. Even if it would make sense. Domi is an idiot. A bad teammate and the praise he's been getting (from Price I think) is because he needs ego coddling and everyone knows it. I would never do it.

Having said that. I'm also not paying Brock and Olli and something else to dump Loui when you could pay a lot less and dump Roussel and Sutter who combined cost more cap space. It's a no from Van. I just did a bunch of Jake Allen talk and I also agree he's worth more. I also cant imagine Mtl paying 15 million for goalies. Dumping Byron might be fine and I don't have intel on the contracts and if they are good or not. Sorry bro, I'm not with you this time.


Oh bro ... im so sorry , I dont go on as frequent !! Been so caught up watch hockey everyday !! hahaha

ANYWAYS really appreciate the tag ... thats hilarious hahahhaha

I don't post much so this is quite entertaining for me

BUT , im still a HUGE fan of Domi especially him and Horvat had decent chemistry for 3 years on the Knights !



P.S i will be on more often , love to talk canucks with you @reelkena cool
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