no team "deserves" the first overall pick. you luck into it.

I’m not sure how much of this is oil not showing up or the hawks playing fantastic. They are moving the puck very fast very impressive.

bad teams "deserve" better chances for the pick. I get your point. I just think the NHL made a massive oversight allowing good teams a chance at Lafreniere.

I honestly cannot understand how the Hawks have had a couple bad seasons. They are playing amazingly. Toews and Keith have been great. Kane hasn't even shown up yet.

They should have kept Lehner.



Monteal got Guy Lafleur. What's your point? Honestly none of the play in teams deserve number 1 overall. Should have gone to Detroit or Ottawa.

Smith is a major blind spot for Tippett.

My point is teams should not be allowed to draft #1 ovr more than once in say, 4-5 years.

If you look at position in standings and where they draft Ottawa should've drafting at number 1. They have been a bottom 2 team for the last 3 years and the Canadians have drafted 3rd OA meanwhile the Sens pick havent been higher than 4th OA.

meh...3rd ovr, 4th ovr..thats' potatoes really. Not a big difference.

Pretty big tbh. Byfield vs Rossi...
Stutzle vs Raymond...

Montreal hasn't even come last in the league once in the last 10 years.

My take is this

1 there should be a penalty to any team for deliberately tanking. Like say loss of their 1st round pick. It would make for better hockey down the stretch to the playoffs if every team was doing their best to win. It is an insult to the game and it's fans for a team to just give up and trade anything of value for a shot at 1st no matter how good that player is.

2. No team that was in a playoff position at the break should have a shot at the 1st OVA. Any other year they wouldn't why should they now!

3. Montreal and Chicago never should have been in the play in round.

4. Any team that wins the 1st OVA pick in 5 years or a top 3 pick twice in 5 years should not be in the lottery. They have had their pick of great players and still are not fixing the team that is on them.

5. Change how the lottery is ranked based on number of points accumulated in the last 1/8 of the season. For example if Team A accumulates 10 points from game 72 on and Team B accumulates 8 points Team A has the best odds at 1st OVA. It makes all the games meaningful and entertaining and takes away the advantage of tanking.

let's just do a european football system where the draft doesn't exist.

Im curious, do you hate the Habs? I haven't brought them up at all but you keep referencing them.
Im a total Habs fan and I hate the leafs so...full disclosure.
I don't agree man. If you look back the last 10 yrs...no there isnt a huge difference between 3 and 6 overall. There have been lots of busts at 3-6 overalls. Puujarvi, Nolan Patrick (2nd), the ENTIRE 2012 top 10.

Yakupov was also a bust.

I don't think you can say don't give #1OA to some of the play in teams but it's okay for others to have it.

The league is counting these games as playoff games. As such none of these teams should actually be eligible for the first overall pick.

It's like saying since you lost in the 1st round of the playoffs you can still have #1OA. It makes no sense.

Thanks for the feedback.

So, how would you prove #1? It's pretty impossible to prove IMO.
I agree on your #3, but then I wouldnt have been able to watch Toews own McDavid like at this minute
I agree on the first half of your #4. But keeping teams who drafted top 3 in the past 5 years to draft #1 is a lot of elimination. Without looking into the history, I'd assume that eliminates approx 8 teams this year.
I like your #5 idea. Make teams "win" for the number 1 pick. I almost think the number 1 pick should go to the team that finishes 17 overall. But there are a lot of problems with that too.

This a a whole other can of worms. European football teams provide very poor education and life prospects to kids who join their academies. So the players that don't make pro soccer and are 18 years old with minimal education end up with a pretty bleak future...Also keep in mind I think some academies train players as young as 8-9 years old.

I never really believed Smith was as good as advertised. Even when he had good numbers years ago.

Yeah the 1st point is hard to prove but just my opinion.

Maybe make the teams that have picked top 3 twice in the last 3 years in eligible for just the lottery and just drop to like 4th. That would even things up a bit more.

got any sources for that?

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sorry I din't know this was a University forum. Yea man I do. You can find em too

Sounds like you don't have any sources on your claims.

I remember Oiler fans telling me Smith was better than Holtby. Smith is a loser

“Luck” wink wink

Braden Holtby is also bad

Managed to win a cup Vezna and hold the record for wins in a season. Seems terrible. Hes still good but caps defense is awful