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Realistic trade destination for Marner

Created by: leafsFan1996
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 11, 2020
Published: Aug. 11, 2020
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Melnyk is a poor owner who has frequently has his GM trade for player whos cap hit is higher than the actual salary. If the leafs trade him after his signing bonus here is his year by year salary that Ottawa would be paying

20/21: $700k (leafs pay signing bonus)
21/22: $10,358,000
22/23: $8,000,000
23/24: $8,000,000
24/25: $8,000,000

Marner's cap hit: $10,893,000
average payment per year by Ottawa : $7,011,600

you can **** all over the trade if you want, my point is Ottawa seems like a viable trading option for Marner
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,500,000
2$875,000
2$1,700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$725,000
3$2,000,000
1$3,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Batherson, Drake
  2. 2020 1st round pick (OTT)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
which ever one is the 5th overall
2.
TOR
  1. Toninato, Dominic [RFA Rights]
  2. Weegar, MacKenzie [RFA Rights]
3.
TOR
  1. 2022 7th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
to any team
ANA
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the COL
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2021
Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the COL
Logo of the TOR
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,580,116$0$20,000$5,919,884

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,700,000$1,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$875,000$875,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 11, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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Yeah big no from Ottawa. I wouldn’t do it for the 5th overall alone. I’ll give u Lassi Thomson + Duclair or Connor Brown + Logan Brown + Isles pick + 1 or 2 2nd rounders. Take it or leave it. I’m not offering Formenton, Batherson, 5th overall, Brannstrom, JBD, 3rd overall, Tkachuk, Norris, etc
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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Yeah big no from Ottawa. I wouldn’t do it for the 5th overall alone. I’ll give u Lassi Thomson + Duclair or Connor Brown + Logan Brown + Isles pick + 1 or 2 2nd rounders. Take it or leave it. I’m not offering Formenton, Batherson, 5th overall, Brannstrom, JBD, 3rd overall, Tkachuk, Norris, etc


"We'll take Marner, but only for the stuff you want back for Marner"
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.
By your logic, Nylander is more likely, Leafs pay his signing bonus so he gets $2.5 million next year and 3 more seasons with $6 million cash. A little above $5 million AAV in real cash for 4 years of a cap hit of nearly $7 million.

Also only a lunatic would pay $14.3 million to someone just to get rid of him, even in divorce court that'll be crazy.
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
"We'll take Marner, but only for the stuff you want back for Marner"


well i botched that
DONT want back, obviously
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
By your logic, Nylander is more likely, Leafs pay his signing bonus so he gets $2.5 million next year and 3 more seasons with $6 million cash. A little above $5 million AAV in real cash for 4 years of a cap hit of nearly $7 million.

Also only a lunatic would pay $14.3 million to someone just to get rid of him, even in divorce court that'll be crazy.


the leafs print money and payed a hell of a lot to get out from under Babcock. they payed Brown's Zaitsev and Marleus signing bonuses last summer before shipping them out.

You could do it with Willy too but I'd rather trade Marner. Marner is better (not by a lot) but he is overpaid by 2-2.5 million. That being said it really depends what the offers are for both players.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Imo Marner for #5 makes sense for both, provided that Drysdale is available at the 5 spot. Wouldn't include Batherson though, kid will be a stud

Leafs get their cap relief and their RHD of the future, and could potentially go out and get Pietrangelo or other help.

Ottawa takes a gamble on a prospect (as everyone always does) at #3, then gets a surefire star instead of the #5 pick that you'd hope turns out like Marner. Ottawa is in no cap crunch, and as the original poster pointed out, the contract structure is very economical.

Imo:
Marner + Holl + 2nd round pick + 3rd round pick = #5OA + Connor Brown

Gives OTT some reassurance and stability, and puts more fans in the seats. Gives TOR cap relief and what they need for the long run
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Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Yeah big no from Ottawa. I wouldn’t do it for the 5th overall alone. I’ll give u Lassi Thomson + Duclair or Connor Brown + Logan Brown + Isles pick + 1 or 2 2nd rounders. Take it or leave it. I’m not offering Formenton, Batherson, 5th overall, Brannstrom, JBD, 3rd overall, Tkachuk, Norris, etc


Marner is a great player and he had a bad playoffs so there are a lot of low-ball offers I see on here. If you trade Marner (an elite talent under contract is his prime) you need a blue chip prospect, or a top pairing RHD under the age of 27 + a roster player or two. Just because he's overpaid by 2ish mill doesn't mean his trade value is completely tanked. ELite talent is hard to come by, you need to pay a lot to get that elite talent even if they're overpaid by 2 mill
Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.
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Marner is a great player and he had a bad playoffs so there are a lot of low-ball offers I see on here. If you trade Marner (an elite talent under contract is his prime) you need a blue chip prospect, or a top pairing RHD under the age of 27 + a roster player or two. Just because he's overpaid by 2ish mill doesn't mean his trade value is completely tanked. ELite talent is hard to come by, you need to pay a lot to get that elite talent even if they're overpaid by 2 mill


He’s not signed for 8 years either. No thanks
Aug. 11, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
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The problem with this scheme is that the 2020 draft occurs BEFORE the Maple Leafs pay Marner's signing bonus for 2020-2021. I suppose this could be covered by "Future Considerations," though.
Aug. 11, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
"We'll take Marner, but only for the stuff you want back for Marner"


I think thats fair lol.

Were notting giving A1 assets for overpaid A1 talent and no team control.

OTT is willing to offer a whole ****ton of B and B+ assets though, and cap relief
 
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