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Pitt fans I need input

Created by: TheOtherAuston
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2020
Published: Aug. 13, 2020
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What is the feeling around the fan base about these players?
On an individual player basis what kind of return would you expect
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31$81,500,000$107,071,866$0$0-$25,571,866
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
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$800,000$800,000
LW
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$675,000$675,000
C
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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$750,000$750,000
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
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NTC
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$750,000$750,000
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$675,000$675,000
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$894,167$894,167
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$675,000$675,000
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$863,333$863,333
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$700,000$700,000
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:11 p.m.
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hornqvist = anything for cap relief
McCann = I dont want to trade him but I could see it happening since hes in Sullivans dog house and once you're In there, it's hard to get out.
Rust = wont be traded
Simon = 3rd or 4th
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
hornqvist = anything for cap relief
McCann = I dont want to trade him but I could see it happening since hes in Sullivans dog house and once you're In there, it's hard to get out.
Rust = wont be traded
Simon = 3rd or 4th


And any particular reason you don't see rust moving?
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
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Quoting: TheOtherAuston
And any particular reason you don't see rust moving?


he had a PPG season and too good of a contract. like realistically it would take an overpay to move him. No team would (or should) make an offer for Rust because they would get ripped off.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
hornqvist = anything for cap relief
McCann = I dont want to trade him but I could see it happening since hes in Sullivans dog house and once you're In there, it's hard to get out.
Rust = wont be traded
Simon = 3rd or 4th


So basically you'll move the guys that have no value but not the guys with value.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
he had a PPG season and too good of a contract. like realistically it would take an overpay to move him. No team would (or should) make an offer for Rust because they would get ripped off.


Alright thanks for the input, I'mma figure something out
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.
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Hornqvist- please take him off the team, he's not bad, just not good enough to be getting the minutes (and PP1 time) Sully gives him, i just don't want Sully to have the ability to play him over Rust or Zucker like he did vs MTL
McCann- completely agree with mhockey, I still think he can be a decent top 6 winger, Sully just insists on playing him at 3C or nowhere else
Rust-I can't see him getting moved, debatably the best contract on the team other than Crosby (him or Guentzel) and we need all the cap space we can get, it'd be like the leafs moving Hyman
Simon- I still belive he can be a decent mid 6 F, he just has a terrible shot and it seems like the team wanted him to be a sniper on sid's line, but I would be willing to package him to get a legit top 6 winger
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.
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Hornqvist- please take him off the team, he's not bad, just not good enough to be getting the minutes (and PP1 time) Sully gives him, i just don't want Sully to have the ability to play him over Rust or Zucker like he did vs MTL
McCann- completely agree with mhockey, I still think he can be a decent top 6 winger, Sully just insists on playing him at 3C or nowhere else
Rust-I can't see him getting moved, debatably the best contract on the team other than Crosby (him or Guentzel) and we need all the cap space we can get, it'd be like the leafs moving Hyman
Simon- I still belive he can be a decent mid 6 F, he just has a terrible shot and it seems like the team wanted him to be a sniper on sid's line, but I would be willing to package him to get a legit top 6 winger


Great Hyman comparison 100% understand
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.
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So basically you'll move the guys that have no value but not the guys with value.


this is rich from a TOR fan base that thinks Braco and a 3rd gets you Connor McDavid.

Kind of like the constant Murray for Andersen trades. As if the penguins have any interest at all in a 30 year old goalie that can't win in the playoffs to come be the backup at 5 million per.

Clearly a team contending for a cup isn't going to trade away the pieces they view as trying to get them there.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
So basically you'll move the guys that have no value but not the guys with value.


murray will be our key trade chip this offseason. we will also shop prospects/ picks as always.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
this is rich from a TOR fan base that thinks Braco and a 3rd gets you Connor McDavid.

Kind of like the constant Murray for Andersen trades. As if the penguins have any interest at all in a 30 year old goalie that can't win in the playoffs to come be the backup at 5 million per.

Clearly a team contending for a cup isn't going to trade away the pieces they view as trying to get them there.


You're crazy. I have never suggested those trades. Also Murray has a 0.899 sv% so he doesn't have as much value as you think.

Quoting: mhockey91
murray will be our key trade chip this offseason. we will also shop prospects/ picks as always.


Not sure if shipping Murray is a good idea unless you don't think he will rebound. His value must be at an all time low because of Jack Johnson's poor defensive play in front of him.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
You're crazy. I have never suggested those trades. Also Murray has a 0.899 sv% so he doesn't have as much value as you think.



Not sure if shipping Murray is a good idea unless you don't think he will rebound. His value must be at an all time low because of Jack Johnson's poor defensive play in front of him.


I still think Murray’s perceived value around the league with GM’s will be higher than we think. Remember, everything posted on cap friendly is just our own opinions. No one on CF would’ve predicted Larson for Hall. GM’s around the league have their own perceptions about players and with Murray’s cup experience he could be a player viewed higher than he should be
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.
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I'd love to see Hyman with Sid, but I doubt you'd want to give him up. If you wanted Rust that's probably where I'd start.
Simon for a pick.
Hornquist...well I'd be very interested in how the Leads might pursue that. Kapanen would be nice.
McCann for Kapanen I would do.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Amd
I'd love to see Hyman with Sid, but I doubt you'd want to give him up. If you wanted Rust that's probably where I'd start.
Simon for a pick.
Hornquist...well I'd be very interested in how the Leads might pursue that. Kapanen would be nice.
McCann for Kapanen I would do.


Hornquist has no value. His cap hit is too high for what he brings to the team.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
So basically you'll move the guys that have no value but not the guys with value.


Yeah, kind of like how Leafs fans keep trading Johnsson, Kerfoot, Engvall, Dermott, and Andersen... but not guys with value.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:39 p.m.
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Yeah, kind of like how Leafs fans keep trading Johnsson, Kerfoot, Engvall, Dermott, and Andersen... but not guys with value.


They do have value just not what most leaf fans think they are worth
Aug. 13, 2020 at 9:46 p.m.
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Yeah, kind of like how Leafs fans keep trading Johnsson, Kerfoot, Engvall, Dermott, and Andersen... but not guys with value.


Quoting: TheOtherAuston
They do have value just not what most leaf fans think they are worth


What? Most Leafs posts have been moving Marner and some have been moving Nylander.

I've seen Pens posts where they are moving Jack Johnson and Bjugstad for picks lol.
 
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