Imo, this is a fair trade for Domi. Dont know why ANA would want an older C (still young but) when theyre still rebuilding. Petry would get a huge return (more than a late first like you suggest). TBH, if MB goes on and trade 2-4 of his top players (Domi, Drouin, Tatar, Petry, Danault or Gallagher) and receive a ton of first picks and prospects, he should package them and get the first OA. If he really wants to turn that franchise around, we need an exceptionnal forward upfront. Laf is the guy

MTL fan who doesn't even know how Bergevin thinks lol
But I understand, that's your AGM and what you would do

as i said in the description it's just the domi trade that is finish all the Anaheim trade it's not to them it's just to put the player there and say the value i expect in return and i dont look at where the 1st round is , it's just the basic value i look(1st round plus a good prospect) more so if it's a 2021 1st round instead of 2020.

yeah i know with all the draft pick Bergevin get lately he clearly not try to build his team with the draft

habs fans are in for a rude awakening if Domi is actually moved. Again, another gross overpay for him.

Everyone was saying the same thing about patch back in the days. We got an A prospect for him and a second (considering he was a pending UFA).

Patch was also 10X the player Domi was. Poulin + 15OA for Domi is off the table from the Pens POV.

Yes he does, he wants us to be competitive with Suzuki Kotkaniemi Romanov Caufield Primeau / Gallagher Danault Lehkonen Byron Weber Petry / now the players who needs to fit are Domi Drouin Armia

Norlinder Struble Harris Ylonen Ikonen are good prospects, but it will take time before all the youngster are with MTL

They wont all make it.

100% but saying 15th OA is close to Domi is not
If Domi is getting trade for something similar or worse, I'll give you the credit and that I was wrong. But IMO Domi is worth more than a 1st mid round pick

A pending UFA that agreed to sigh an extension. And Patches also had 5 30+ goal seasons, which deserves a return for what MTL got. Domi doesnt have patches value if he were to be traded

That's far from the opinion people had back then. He was turning 30 and coming off one of the worst seasons of his career. People didn't see him returning a 2nd round pick and B prospect.

Now 15OA + Poulin being off the table is fair enough but I also don't see much of a fit between the two teams. Although JR may want Domi, Bergevin wants to keep building and improving his team and won't be eager to do JR a favor. Outside of Poulin&15OA I don't see what MTL want that PIT would be willing to move.

i agree with you Domi don't have the same value of Patches but Poulin don't have the same value of Suzuki too .

pens would be willing to part with one of those pieces, but certainly not both. I think 15OA for Domi is a fair deal, but once you add Poulin, Pens get fleeced. This is a very deep draft. 15OA is going to snag a great prospect. Pens aren't going to be moving two first round picks for Domi. its just not worth it for their perspective.

well like I said, Sabres fans were not willing to trade 8th overall for Domi. 15OA is closer to what his actual value is on here. No Pens fan would be okay with a trade that involved more than 15OA. it would be an overpay at that point. If Pens packaged Poulin+15OA they could get a better player than Domi

8th we are talking about a player with Elite potential
10th is top6 potential
Big difference

TBH i know the price is a bit high but i think we can even it out with middle pick (we have a lot ) Poulin , 1st round for Domi and we even it out with middle pick is easier (and better for us ) then 1st round for Domi and PIT even it out with middle pick (wich you don't have a lot or not as much as we have) here i add a 3rd vs a 7th round but it can be a second or a middle prospect some thing like that

I know Pens have been linked to Domi, but the GM said they want to get younger. I do not want to give up our best prospect and another solid 1st.

15th overall, you are still looking at a guy like Jarvis, Quinn, Lapierre, etc.. Since every draft features some reaches in the top 10, its safe to assume at pick #15 there is going to be a blue chip prospect available.

im just still not interested bro, I like Domi, but not that much. LW is the position we are the most set on. We need a RH forward more than a LH

Eum Jarvis Quinn are 99.99% gone at 15, we talk about Mercer Holloway Schneider Amirov Gunler at 15, but even if you had the 28th pick, it's still a blue chip prospect for the first 2 years ( exemple : Ryan Suzuki, Connor McMichael ). This year around 28th it's gonna be Reichel, Bourque and the team drafting them gonna say they are blue chip prospect .. like that every years

I definitely understand and respect that. From my perspective though there is a great deal of risk in trading an established, young player who is consistently productive for a chance that 3 years down the road a guy might come and make the impact that the player I just traded is having.

Heck everyone is raving about how good Suzuki is (and he certainly is that) but he still didn't outscore Domi last season. That was his D+3 season. Even Kotkaniemi who was drafted 3rd OA has just started making a real difference pretty much 3 years later. And those are the ones who make it.

I get your perspective and it's certainly valid but I guess what I should have stated more explicitly is that I personally would favor more of a "hockey trade" than kicking the can down the road with futures. Hence my belief that MTL and PIT aren't very well suited as trade partners. I know other Habs fans might view things differently as we are a very divided fanbase but that is my opinion for what it's worth.

Jarvis and Quinn could very well fall, and yes Mercer Holloway Schneider Amirov Gunler are all top prospects and Tbh I could see any of them being a top 10 pick made by a team reaching. Like I said, it happens every year.

Won't happen this year Laf Byf Stut Dry Perf Rossi Ray Holtz are lock for the top 10, after Sanderson Lundell Quinn could complete the top10, I dont think anyone outside of those 11 are going top 10. I wont be wrong lmao

that is what everyone says every year. watch, someone who you think is a "lock" for top 10 will fall, it always happens

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