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Laine PSA

Created by: tsyls
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2020
Published: Sep. 1, 2020
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Didn’t want to be this guy, as I saw a lot of these for Mantha and others lol. But it needs to be said! The Jets aren’t moving Laine for a quantity type deal. They’d have to address their C and D needs in a Laine trade.

I’ve seen a lot of Laine to MTL deals that have them trading Domi + Fleury + 1st for Laine. That’s absurd, the jets would be wanting to upgrade C and would be looking for quality coming back. One of KK, Suzuki, Romanov or Caufield would have to be included to even get the conversation started for WPG. I know MTL fans will cry about that but it’s just the way it is when you’re moving a guy like Laine. I’ve seen him being moved to many other teams as well. Like NJD and others, you guys really have to offer a quality deal for the Jets to consider it. I’ve seen some good ones, but a lot of bad ones.

If you want to leave what you think is a truly fair trade for laine, go ahead. Let others give you some feedback!

I’m leaving a few deals that I think would be close for Laine. Feel free to tear me apart for them!
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Brook, Josh
  2. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
  3. Danault, Phillip
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Danault would have to come extended

Steep price but this would have to be the price to get the Jets to consider it.
2.
CAR
    Laine
    3.
    WPG
    1. Klefbom, Oscar
    2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    3. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
    4. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
    Additional Details:
    Nuge comes extended
    EDM
      Laine
      4.
      WPG
      1. Carrick, Connor
      2. Hischier, Nico
      Additional Details:
      This one likely is a no go for NJD as they don’t have a lot of C depth behind hischier and Hughes but they’d have to consider this. It’s likely turned down though
      NJD
        Laine
        5.
        WPG
        1. Nelson, Brock
        2. Pulock, Ryan [RFA Rights]
        Additional Details:
        I know this is almost an instant no, but the isles would get a top winger to score with barzal and the jets solve their 2c and top 4 RHD issue. Maybe the jets add Heinola and it’s fair?
        NYI
          Laine
          DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
          2020
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          2022
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          Left WingCentreRight Wing
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          $7,142,857$7,142,857
          LW
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          $6,125,000$6,125,000
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          $6,000,000$6,000,000
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          $5,250,000$5,250,000
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          UFA - 2
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          $2,916,667$2,916,667
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          $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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          $3,083,333$3,083,333
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          $2,280,000$2,280,000
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          $6,000,000$6,000,000
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          UFA - 5
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          UFA - 8
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          $3,000,000$3,000,000
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          UFA - 1
          Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
          $6,166,667$6,166,667
          G
          UFA - 4
          Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
          $850,000$850,000
          LD
          UFA - 1
          Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
          $775,000$775,000
          RD
          UFA - 1
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          $4,025,000$4,025,000
          RD
          UFA - 4
          Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
          $795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
          RD
          UFA - 2
          Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
          $4,167,000$4,167,000
          LD
          UFA - 3
          Logo of the New Jersey Devils
          $1,500,000$1,500,000
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          UFA - 1
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          RFA - 4

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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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          facts but montreal isnt moving kk suzuki caufield or romanov so....
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:34 p.m.
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          imma block the Jets' GM's number if he tries that ****

          Laine is overrated, and the definition of a one dimensional winger.
          McDavid doesn't need any offensive wingers, he needs 2 way wingers. The McDavid line let in almost as many goals as they scored this season, so a possession winger like Ehlers/Tatar/Gallagher would be massive
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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          Quoting: lebronisdagoat
          facts but montreal isnt moving kk suzuki caufield or romanov so....


          I know, and that’s kind of the point I’m trying to make. In big deals like this, each team will have to compromise somehow. I think Caufield or KK is a realistic option but I can see Romanov and Suzuki being totally off the board.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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          oilers and canes trades are bad, very bad
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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          Canes pass on that deal
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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          No way ur getting pesce and necas
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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          Quoting: ken_holland
          imma block the Jets' GM's number if he tries that ****

          Laine is overrated, and the definition of a one dimensional winger.
          McDavid doesn't need any offensive wingers, he needs 2 way wingers. The McDavid line let in almost as many goals as they scored this season, so a possession winger like Ehlers/Tatar/Gallagher would be massive


          If you took the time to watch any jets games, you would’ve seen a totally different Laine lol. He’s not a liability in his own end lol. Yes his defensive game isn’t on a selke level but he’s really improved his 200ft game. If you don’t watch a number of games you wouldn’t know that lol.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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          Quoting: ecupirate07
          Canes pass on that deal


          Quoting: vr1995
          oilers and canes trades are bad, very bad


          Quoting: etpeck
          No way ur getting pesce and necas


          See I’m okay with you thinking this, reason being that I know it’s an overpayment. Trying to emphasize on the fact that teams would have to overpay to get him.
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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          Quoting: tsyls
          See I’m okay with you thinking this, reason being that I know it’s an overpayment. Trying to emphasize on the fact that teams would have to overpay to get him.

          I get it. Based on the Canes cap situation coming up, Im only interested in Ehlers. Laine will cost too much when Dougie and Svech will as well. No Necas though.
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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          MTL declines
          CAR possible...close enough to tweak...Pesce or Necas, not both
          EDM probably declines unless they think RNH is walking after season
          NJD declines
          NYI accepts
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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          Laine is overrated but he will still get the biggest return if he is traded - he is a household name and teams will pay a premium for goal scorers. For the islanders, they’re better off attempting to trade for ehlers/Connor. Laine is going to want at least 9 mill on his next contract and he isn’t worth that.
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          MTL declines
          CAR possible...close enough to tweak...Pesce or Necas, not both
          EDM probably declines unless they think RNH is walking after season
          NJD declines
          NYI accepts


          NYI declines
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: ken_holland
          imma block the Jets' GM's number if he tries that ****

          Laine is overrated, and the definition of a one dimensional winger.
          McDavid doesn't need any offensive wingers, he needs 2 way wingers. The McDavid line let in almost as many goals as they scored this season, so a possession winger like Ehlers/Tatar/Gallagher would be massive


          One dimensional.. clearly never watched him play this year
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          MTL declines
          CAR possible...close enough to tweak...Pesce or Necas, not both
          EDM probably declines unless they think RNH is walking after season
          NJD declines
          NYI accepts


          isles would only accept if it was one for one with pulock. Nelson is a top 6 forward and pulock is a top 2 Dman. Both of those Laine is an overpay for sure, isles would rather ehlers or connor 1 for 1 with pulock if they did any trades
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.
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          Quoting: Isles777
          NYI declines


          Laine and Heinola...and NYI would save $$ in Barzal year. Worth considering.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.
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          Love how ppl think they can get a young elite scorer who took his game to another level this year for scrap pieces ppl on this site sometimes I tell ya yeesh
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.
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          Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
          One dimensional.. clearly never watched him play this year


          Most of his offense comes on the powerplay. His even strength offense is decent, but his even strength defense is in the 8th percentile of all NHL players. That means 92% of all NHL players are better than him at defense.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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          Carolina will not move both Pesce and Necas for Laine, it's likely one or the other.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Laine and Heinola...and NYI would save $$ in Barzal year. Worth considering.


          Thats a fair trade, but the isles don’t need heinola. The opportunity cost to acquire Laine is too much for what they have to give up and pay him on his next contract. Laine is a 7-7.5 mill player , but he’ll get 9-9.5 on his next deal and he likely won’t live up to it. Ehlers is already providing excess value on his contract and Connors deal is fair.

          Losing a 2C and 1RD for a 1RW and a LHD you don’t need doesn’t make the team better in the next 2 years.
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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          Quoting: Buffsbrain
          isles would only accept if it was one for one with pulock. Nelson is a top 6 forward and pulock is a top 2 Dman. Both of those Laine is an overpay for sure, isles would rather ehlers or connor 1 for 1 with pulock if they did any trades


          I think NYI need to add to 1-for-1 Pulock for Laine. But this offer was Laine /Heinola for Pullock/Nelson. Its not crazy. I would do that.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
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          Quoting: Isles777
          Thats a fair trade, but the isles don’t need heinola. The opportunity cost to acquire Laine is too much for what they have to give up and pay him on his next contract. Laine is a 7-7.5 mill player , but he’ll get 9-9.5 on his next deal and he likely won’t live up to it. Ehlers is already providing excess value on his contract and Connors deal is fair.

          Losing a 2C and 1RD for a 1RW and a LHD you don’t need doesn’t make the team better in the next 2 years.


          NYI are deep down the middle. Adding Laine or Connor to the league's 2nd worst power play seems like a good idea.
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          NYI are deep down the middle. Adding Laine or Connor to the league's 2nd worst power play seems like a good idea.


          The islanders would be a better team with pulock and Nelson in the lineup than just Laine/Connor
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:58 p.m.
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          Quoting: ken_holland
          Most of his offense comes on the powerplay. His even strength offense is decent, but his even strength defense is in the 8th percentile of all NHL players. That means 92% of all NHL players are better than him at defense.


          Seriously.... he has 16 points on the pp this year 8 goals 8 assists and 47 points even strength 20goals 27assists... hardly relying on the pp, and our defence crops were basicly nonexistent this year so all our forwards defence stats r pretty low. Have to say he is one of the better 2 ways players we got
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          Sep. 1, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
          Love how ppl think they can get a young elite scorer who took his game to another level this year for scrap pieces ppl on this site sometimes I tell ya yeesh


          Yup I know, that’s why I made this post lol
          Sep. 1, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
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          Quoting: HockeyFan989
          Seriously.... he has 16 points on the pp this year 8 goals 8 assists and 47 points even strength 20goals 27assists... hardly relying on the pp, and our defence crops were basicly nonexistent this year so all our forwards defence stats r pretty low. Have to say he is one of the better 2 ways players we got


          It’s funny to say but he’s a better 2 way player than Scheifele, Connor and maybe even wheeler lol.
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