Is Ben Bishop on the Market

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Created by: TheOneTrueGM

Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 22, 2020

Published: Sep. 22, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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With Dobby playing excellent in these playoffs and Oettinger waiting in the wings rumors has it they may listen to offers for Bishop, especially given his injury history.

It will be interesting to see what we do with Ned, he now requires waives and I think he could be a solid goalie but needs a little more time and a real chance at a backup role

This team still needs a top six winger but would need to move salary out to do so. I don't see free agency as the answer. I think we need to trade for someone with term/controllable and who can bang some bodies and go to the front of the net. I think we are a little perimeter oriented.

Trade Targets: Max Domi, Alex Killorn, Josh Anderson, Jake Virtanen

Free Agent Targets: Vlad Namestnikov, Craig Smith, Alex Galchenyuk, Evgeni Dadonov

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Foegele, Warren	3	$2,375,000
Fleury, Haydn	2	$2,000,000
Bishop, Clark	2	$725,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Schenn, Luke		1	$935,000

Trades

CAR

Bishop, Ben

Additional Details:

Is this enough or does more need to be added?

DAL

2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
2021 1st round pick (CAR)

CAR

2021 3rd round pick (SJS)

Additional Details:

Any team. OTT, MIN, SJ, LAK, and EDM seem to be the most likely destinations

SJS

Reimer, James

Additional Details:

3rd or 4th round pick seem to be the most realistic return

CAR

2020 3rd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

If they can't get Krug I think Gardiner would be a good option for what he brings

DET

Gardiner, Jake

Additional Details:

I like his offensive game, his defensive game is another story. I do feel he had a better second half to the season

Buyouts

Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
Patrick Marleau: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$78,852,322	$1,367,073	$3,707,500	$2,647,678

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Svechnikov, Andrei $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) LW, RW UFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian $8,460,250$8,460,250 C UFA - 4	Teräväinen, Teuvo $5,400,000$5,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Niederreiter, Nino $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Trocheck, Vincent $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Necas, Martin $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 2
Foegele, Warren $2,375,000$2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Staal, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Dzingel, Ryan $3,375,000$3,375,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
McGinn, Brock $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Geekie, Morgan $763,333$763,333 ($20,000$20K) C, RW RFA - 1	Martinook, Jordan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD UFA - 5	Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Skjei, Brady $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD UFA - 4	Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD UFA - 4	Mrázek, Petr $3,125,000$3,125,000 G UFA - 1
Fleury, Haydn $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Bean, Jake $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bishop, Clark $725,000$725,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Schenn, Luke $935,000$935,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Trocheck, V.		Aho, S.		Teräväinen, T.
	Svechnikov, A.		Hamilton, D.

Power Play 2
Necas, M.		Staal, J.		Niederreiter, N.
	Dzingel, R.		Bean, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Staal, J.	McGinn, B.
	Slavin, J.	Hamilton, D.

Penalty Kill 2
	Aho, S.	Teräväinen, T.
	Skjei, B.	Pesce, B.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.

Jfstompers

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If you get Bishop which would be awesome for you I'll take gardiner with all his flaws if we don't get krug and I'll take reimer for 3rd and a 4th rounder.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.

masterjuddi

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I like the Bishop deal. Canes should do it

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:48 a.m.

etpeck

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I think that’s more than enough for bishop. With his injury history I think Dallas would be looking to move him. If u can move dzingle out the canes have enough cap space for a winger in the top 6, hopefully someone young and with some term

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Edited Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

No freaking way i'd give up a 2021 1st round pick+2020 2nd round pick for Ben Bishop he has health issues he's not worth anywhere close to that much.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.

CoopsTroops

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Bishop is good when healthy, but that's a gross overpayment for him. Just the 2nd would be a lot considering what Tampa and LA got got him.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Sorry Jake Gardiner isn't worth a 3rd rounder.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.

MelonVK

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Interesting to see what happens next year when Svech asks for 7.5+ and Hamilton for 9

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.

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Edited Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:26 p.m.

Quoting: etpeck

literally the only time Bishop gets injured is during a big moments, other than that he's fine, he's one of the better passing goalies and his 6'7 210 frame will be able to stop a lot of pucks.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.

SlevinKalevra

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That honestly seems like too much for Bish. I’d do Bish for Reimer and Fleury

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Sorry Jake Gardiner isn't worth a 3rd rounder.

What would you say his value is then?

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Brady_1997

What would you say his value is then?

No more then a 4th at best, He hasn't been all that wonderful in Carolina and is definitely overpaid.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

No freaking way i'd give up a 2021 1st round pick+2020 2nd round pick for Ben Bishop he has health issues he's not worth anywhere close to that much.

Yeah I didn't know how much it'd take. Because he does have a decent contract and in my opinion is a top 5 goalie.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

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Quoting: Brady_1997

Yeah I didn't know how much it'd take. Because he does have a decent contract and in my opinion is a top 5 goalie.

He might get a late 2nd at best, But that's about it.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

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No more then a 4th at best, He hasn't been all that wonderful in Carolina and is definitely overpaid.

I agree he wasn't all that awesome but he did turn things around and looked more comfortable as the season progressed. I disagree though that he's overpaid, he only makes 4 million which isn't all that bad for a D-man

Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

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Wings pass, if you want to dump that contract you have to pay us to take it, not the other way around

Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

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Quoting: buffbry

Wings pass, if you want to dump that contract you have to pay us to take it, not the other way around

Its not a bad contract. Its 4 million for 3 more years, If you look at what D-man are signing for it doesn't look bad at all. When you guys pay 8+ million for Krug for 6-8 years we'll see how that ages. When you look at past contracts that DET has dished out it makes Gards look like an absolute steal. No disrespect though, I just don't agree that it is a bad contract.

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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.

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Quoting: Brady_1997

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful either, sorry if it came off that way. My take is, your logic is true for a playoff team, but currently in a flat cap, cut cost world the red wings have a ton of cap space and are going to use it as a weapon. They aren't competing this year, so taking on any contacts would only happen if they were compensated. This is why I think Carolina trades him elsewhere or pays us to take him.

Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.

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Quoting: buffbry

Yeah I didn't think you were disrespectful, and I see your point. I just thought that DET was weak on D and thought Gards would be an upgrade for their D. But you make a good point about it being a flat cap world and how teams might use their cap space as a weapon for team up against it.

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Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.

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buffbry

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Quoting: Brady_1997

To be fair in a normal world I do think what you are saying makes sense, I just think in today's world we are looking to take.on bad cap hits to gain assets. Example Loui erikkson for demko and a pick. Steen and bozak for picks. Etc..

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