Points for creativity but the Avs aren't interested in Kessel at $8M (may not even be interested at all).

good luck running a 20 man roster.

creativity was interesting, but obviously not creative enough to have a proper roster and salary cap.

I'd actually be curious if you can combine the salary retention with the original contract, I wonder what the NHL's rules on that would be.

As far as I have been able to figure... if Kessel returns to Toronto his salary is no longer retained.

20 man roster and yours $1,000,000 over the cap lmao 😂😂😂

Wouldn't whoever was acquiring Kessel be quite content to get him at the retained cap hit that Arizona currently has? The Yotes would probably still get a bit of value out of that, rather than a 7th...

Ya I mean its a good idea but I think the Yotes could at least get a 3rd for him and I mean unless you had a trade lined up immediately after I don't see Dubas risking it. Also your over the cap so you would likely need someone other the Pietrangelo.

Avs are not intesrted in Kessel

And I dont think the retained salary rolls back into the deal. Retaining the salary was the condition of an original trade with the penguins, reaquiring a player later does not alter the conditions of that original trade

Leafs have that retained salary on the books no matter what

I'd be curious, because contractually his original contract was split into two.

The retained portion counts solely against the retainee and any subsequent trade for Kessel would be the existing contract.

but if they were to trade him again (after having acquired him), do they trade the contract they acquired from Arizona, or does the contract re-unify?...

and this is true, Trading Kessel would likely yield more than Dermott for Arizona directly.

anyone know if a contract can have double retention from 2 different teams?

EDIT: nevermind, found my answer "An individual contract can only have a maximum of 2 teams retaining salary on it." so yeah, Arizona can retain salary again and get an even better pick or player than Dermott

Yup, I'm 99% sure that they can also retain, as long as it doesn't go past 50% of the original contract.

yeah, i edited my response, found it in the CBA.

Though for the re-acquistion, apparently there's nothing in the CBA about that.

The proposition was a 3-way trade in an article i saw, were they could essentially shift the cap burden to another team, though I have a feeling the NHL would look negatively on this as CBA circumvention.

either way, it's an interesting idea.

For sure. I just think that there's probably a team out there that would be happy to get Kessel, and would give up something more than a 7th for him. He's still talented, and you only have to pay him for 2 years.

Arizona wouldn't trade him for a 7th.... That's the point. The acquiring team gets a deal, the Leafs cap cap relief and the yotes get a young d-man with upside (or whatever reasonable piece they ask for)

Yeah, it's two low-ball trades.




Arizona at $6.8M cap hit can likely get more than Dermott

and then Toronto at a full $8M would likely get more than a 7th (though I assume for this sake, it's just dump him for almost nothing to free up that $1.2M in dead cap space)

though this team has a 20 man-roster at the limit of salary cap, any injuries, flu, whatever put this team into cap penalty territory.

I highly doubt Arizona, in their financial situation, would be willing to retain any money.

Read the Kessel trade description buds.... The Leafs would get 1.2 million in relief in this scenario. The site doesn't have a function to trade the full salary, but by re-acquiring the Leafs could trade the full 8 million. Also, they proved this year they'd be willing to go with a 20 man roster. Not ideal, but still legal.

his base salary is $1M, Toronto is already retaining 15%

Base salary due is 850k, they already paid his $5M bonus.

Salary retention would be on the 850K this year and next year, if they retain 20% they realistically only pay 170k per year, and take $1.36M in cap space, AND avoid a portion of the 21-22 $5M signing bonus.

so yeah... I think they would.

Short term injuries you ice the healthy skaters and deal with it. Long term injuries can go on LTIR and call up a replacement. They were literally willing to do that this season.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/beyond-headlines-injuries-salary-cap-leave-leafs-short-staffed/

there's a difference between willing and forced to.

don't muddy the waters