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Created by: Ian1421
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2020
Published: Oct. 2, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
5$5,500,000
5$5,500,000
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. Gambrell, Dylan
  2. Kellman, Joel
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
2.
COL
  1. 2020 5th round pick (OTT)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (SJS)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
3.
DET
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. True, Alex
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (SJS)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)
  6. 2022 4th round pick (SJS)
4.
SJS
  1. Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. Bergmann, Lean
  2. 2021 5th round pick (SJS)
  3. 2021 6th round pick (SJS)
5.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the SJS
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the WSH
2021
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
2022
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$76,742,500$0$1,765,000$4,757,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$768,333$768,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,375,000$1,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$5,500,000$5,500,000
G
UFA - 6
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.
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Buffbry
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I dunno why you did this either, wings pass easily
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:35 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: buffbry
I dunno why did this either, wings pass easily


Need to send Karlsson to an all-in team. Only one of those here is WSH. Not sure Karlsson's current contract gets you Vrana, but certainly something of significant positive value.
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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Need to send Karlsson to an all-in team. Only one of those here is WSH. Not sure Karlsson's current contract gets you Vrana, but certainly something of significant positive value.


Sj would have to eat almost half of any karlsson trade at this point too
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:37 p.m.
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Detroit passes. Don't want Karlsson since his contract will be awful by the time we're good again.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:38 p.m.
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Sj would have to eat almost half of any karlsson trade at this point too


Karlsson at 5Mxeternity might just about get therm Vrana.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:39 p.m.
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Karlsson at 5Mxeternity might just about get therm Vrana.


I doubt caps do this though. Sharks are stuck with karlsson
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:47 p.m.
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Col would be INSANE to not move 2 bottom 6 guys for SJ's 1st next year let alone more on top of that.

WSH and DET both easily say no.

Tor isn't resigning Rod so thats fine

Last one who cares.
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Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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None of this makes sense. Especially not all of it unless you think the Sharks are just never going to draft a player ever again.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 2, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
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I doubt caps do this though. Sharks are stuck with karlsson


A lot of Caps fans on here are thinking all-in. Karlsson this year should be better than Vrana. In three years, not so much. But regardless of whether Vrana is the return, a $5.75M Karlsson would be a great pickup for WSH or for any all-in team.

At 50% off, I think the Caps might offer Hagelin, Panik, 1st, 3rd. They only have two RHD under contract, and they only have Ovechkin under contract for one more year, so they might be willing to take on some long term risk in order to try to win one more championship right now. At full price, the picks go to WSH, and Oshie goes to SJ, with the the same guys. And that's not a knock on Oshie. Oshie's been on pace for 30 goals in three of the last four years, but his contract carries some significant risk of retirement, which is not exciting to a contender, but might be fine to a rebuilding team.
Oct. 2, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.
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Haven’t y’all learned your lesson with trading 1st away
Oct. 2, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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I dont see avs selling off 2 good forwards to their depth just for draft picks, they arent sellers
Oct. 2, 2020 at 1:42 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 2, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
I tried the cap on Karlsson from WSH's side. Here's how I got it to balance, while still letting the Caps contend this year:

WSH
Karlsson, Erik
Chmelevski, Alexander
Chekhovich, Ivan
Dahlén, Jonathan [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
6 g 34 a 40 p $11.5M
three prospects. No points, yet.
If Dahlen signs at 1M, the Sharks save 305k this year.
SJS
Oshie, T.J.
Pánik, Richard
Hagelin, Carl
Kempný, Michal
Additional Details:
49p+22p+25p+18p=114p.

A few teams want Kempny, so the Sharks can flip him for a pick, for some cap relief. Same with Panik. Hagelin got 25 points this year, and Oshie got 49, so SJ might as well keep them for most of a season and see how they do. Oshie is from Washington State, so Seattle might pick him. Then SJ is just left with Hagelin, at an average price, and great at killing penalties. The Rangers might take him to replace Fast, but they're divided. But you still get almost 9M in cap space within a year, without retention, and without giving up any picks. It just costs a #2 D and three top prospects, all of whom will play this year in the Caps' bottom six to make it work.

So I don't think SJ is stuck with Karlsson. They just have to do the math on how long until they'll be good again, and decide whether they'd rather pay three prospects to move him out or pay three or four years of his 11.5 million dollar salary to watch him grow old, without necessarily helping them contend at all, before he's old and they're truly stuck with him.

FWIW, I also had to move Copley out, and the Caps are left with no flexibility for next season, when they have to write extensions for Ovechkin, Vrana, and Samsonov. So in a year they end up trading Kuznetsov to make cap space, or letting Ovechkin walk, in this scenario. It's not ideal for them, but it does make them a really, really strong contender for one year.

Still, all in all, I think if the Caps kick in their 2020 1st and 4th, and the Sharks immediately get back a 3rd for Kempny and a 4th for Panik, they end up trading three pretty good prospects for a 1st 3rd, and two 4ths in order to trade six years of Karlsson (40 points) for five years of Oshie (49 points at half the price) and three years of Hagelin (25 points at a quarter the price). I know how Sharks fans feel about prospects, but I hear they also like draft picks.
 
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