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Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 8, 2020
Published: Oct. 8, 2020
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Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,875,000
5$6,750,000
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1.
TBL
  1. Barron, Travis
  2. Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (COL)
  6. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
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  1. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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20$81,500,000$80,171,666$0$632,500$1,328,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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NTC
UFA - 4
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C, RW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$737,500$737,500
C
UFA - 2
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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UFA - 1
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LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
UFA - 8
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
#1
Pass it to Lucic
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you're not getting 2 good prospects and 2 first rounders for Stamkos
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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Too much to give up for a guy who is injured all the time
Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
#3
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Colorado wouldn't do this. Newhook and Timmins are very good. They have MacKinnon, and Kadri as well down the middle.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.
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No freaking way is Tampa getting that kind of return for Steven Stamkos not even close.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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Rutta 4ever
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We can stop the Stamkos rumors now. Cirelli and Cernak will leave and Stamkos will stay if it comes to it. Stammer is not going anywhere for the next 4 years.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:42 p.m.
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That’d be a hell no from COL
Oct. 8, 2020 at 1:44 p.m.
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Awful, what a dumpster fire trade for the avs giving up an massive over payment
Oct. 8, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
#8
BOLT LOVER
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
We can stop the Stamkos rumors now. Cirelli and Cernak will leave and Stamkos will stay if it comes to it. Stammer is not going anywhere for the next 4 years.


Wrong .. big time ... if he isn't gone forget winning .. why can't you understand what is best for TEAM .. Stamkos stays 4 years means alot of valuable places leave .. we do NOT need him as shown by Cup dominance without him!!! ..
THERE WAS REASON JBB SAID HE IS NOT UNTOUCHABLE!!!!!
Oct. 8, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
We can stop the Stamkos rumors now. Cirelli and Cernak will leave and Stamkos will stay if it comes to it. Stammer is not going anywhere for the next 4 years.


they are listening on stamkos (reported) but unfortunately for these teams up against the cap like TB- u aint getting half of what u think for these guys ---even if you eat half the contracts... even the teams that have room have to assume a flat cap for next 2 myb 3 years and consider where they have to sign all their RFAs that will be coming due. Gonna be a real interesting show as this unravels... I think Seattles gonna have a feast when expansion kicks in and they take in all these deals for picks!
Oct. 8, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 8, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
Quoting: CharlieComp88
they are listening on stamkos (reported) but unfortunately for these teams up against the cap like TB- u aint getting half of what u think for these guys ---even if you eat half the contracts... even the teams that have room have to assume a flat cap for next 2 myb 3 years and consider where they have to sign all their RFAs that will be coming due. Gonna be a real interesting show as this unravels... I think Seattles gonna have a feast when expansion kicks in and they take in all these deals for picks!


Listening? You'll need to provide sources if it's gotten that far.

Stamkos has the same, and more, protection as anyone else on the team with a NTC. The likelihood of him waiving a NMC is none. And as you said yourself, nobody has the cap space to take him on at any team he would consider going to. He's not leaving and I doubt anyone in the organization has the audacity to ask him to waive his NMC.
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Listening? You'll need to provide sources if it's gotten that far.

Stamkos has the same, and more, protection as anyone else on the team with a NTC. The likelihood of him waiving a NMC is none. And as you said yourself, nobody has the cap space to take him on at any team he would consider going to. He's not leaving and I doubt anyone in the organization has the audacity to ask him to waive his NMC.


https://www.thefourthperiod.com/oct-2020/stamkos-not-among-tampas-untouchables
https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/10/rumored-trade-package-colorado-sending.html
https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/10/blockbuster-report-steven-stamkos-could.html

u make a good point tho, stamkos has to agree...
Oct. 8, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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So no reputable rumors aside from the fact he isn't on the GM's "untouchable" list, which does not mean much in itself while he has a NMC.
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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NTC and NMC clauses mean nothing .. and less for next couple years in flat cap .. Tampa GM specifically said Stamkos is not part of untouchable core.. nor should he .. and JBB hasnt even corrected that statement.. birdie tells me he fielding calls on Stamkos and Mc Donough but as pointed out above .. not many teams have space .. TJ trade should be announced b4 weekend done
Oct. 8, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Listening? You'll need to provide sources if it's gotten that far.

Stamkos has the same, and more, protection as anyone else on the team with a NTC. The likelihood of him waiving a NMC is none. And as you said yourself, nobody has the cap space to take him on at any team he would consider going to. He's not leaving and I doubt anyone in the organization has the audacity to ask him to waive his NMC.


Yeah, he's not going anywhere. All that untouchable crap meant that if there was such an amazing deal offered that bowled Brisebois over, the Lightning literally had no other options, and Stamkos agreed to leave what he himself called the best hockey city there is, then sure, he could be moved. Sounds very realistic lol. The "reported" offers have been laughable at best, Compher, Jost, and Byram for a guy who hit 98 last year and was on pace for~95 this year, yeah, no.
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 7:14 a.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
So no reputable rumors aside from the fact he isn't on the GM's "untouchable" list, which does not mean much in itself while he has a NMC.


true. reported rumors. dime a dozen
Oct. 16, 2020 at 7:15 a.m.
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Yeah, he's not going anywhere. All that untouchable crap meant that if there was such an amazing deal offered that bowled Brisebois over, the Lightning literally had no other options, and Stamkos agreed to leave what he himself called the best hockey city there is, then sure, he could be moved. Sounds very realistic lol. The "reported" offers have been laughable at best, Compher, Jost, and Byram for a guy who hit 98 last year and was on pace for~95 this year, yeah, no.


yeah just rumors , true. u never know, but id agree unlikely.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: CharlieComp88
true. reported rumors. dime a dozen


Sounds like it actually may have happened though. A Lightning reporter asked Stamkos about not being on the untouchable list, and it sounded to me as he politely said "I'm not ******* going anywhere".
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