Quoting: Bcarlo25
Eh, i think Carlo is better defensively than Brodin.
In regards to him being what he is, that is very possible, but he has shown an area of his game offensively that could lead to a lot more points. He’s in the play all the time. His skating is so good that he’s really able to jump up in the play. However, holy crap he seems nervous every time he has the puck in a scoring opportunity. Guys that can’t skate don’t really have the chance to improve on their offense. Carlo can skate.
If you don’t think Carlo will get that much money on his next deal, than that kind of swings the value pendulum contractually back to point Carlo. He’s much cheaper this year and will likely continue to be cheaper.
I feel like you’ll have trouble convincing people he’s better than Brodin, Brodin’s pretty much the consensus best defensive defenseman in the league, and the fancy stats back it up. I think his role is going to be as a #3 best D on the team acting as a rock to an offensive roamer on one of the top two pairs, don’t think he’s going to be all that effective offensively. He had 58% offensive zone starts this year at 5v5 and 10 of his 19 points were secondary assists. For reference, Hanifin was mostly used in a shutdown role with Hamonic this year and had 42% offensive starts at 5v5. He was also only used sparingly on PP2 (had to compete with Brodie and Andersson, and eventually Giordano as well, when Gustafsson took over PP1). He definitely has the potential to become a top pairing defenseman, and I just view Carlo as only reaching that point on a contender if the two best defensemen on the team are both lefties and he pairs with one of them.
Quoting: bhavikp27
Hanifin is still young but he's been in the NHL for five years. Carlo can keep improving and be a top3 defensive D eventually, that argument works for both.
I do think that’s what he’ll be, yes. I just don’t see the offensive upside, which is fine, but that’ll just mean that a top 3 defensive D is all he’ll be. That’s great of course, teams need that, I just think Hanifin is capable of filling a defensive role (he played that this year with Hamonic, who had a pretty mediocre year) and still provide 30+ points per year, maybe 40 if he establishes himself on PP2 full time. A year ironing out some inconsistencies with Tanev as a partner and he’ll probably be ready to take over from Gio on the top pair.
Quoting: Gofnut999
Noah had 22 points last year. Carlo had 19. Noah plays PP. Carlo does not. He has had to babysit Krug and has not been asked to do anything offensively, may see more from him. Carlo even has better Corsi rating. Both same age but Noah will improve and Carlo won’t? Flawed logic.
Noah is vastly overrated. Especially by Boston fans. He grades out as a 2nd pair, Carlo...a 1st. 🤷🏻♂️
I’d rather have Carlo. The right shot and type of game he plays is far more valuable to Boston.
He played limited PP2 which featured Lucic, Ryan, and Backlund as his 3 most common forward linemates lol, not exactly a lethal unit. I would expect Carlo to have a better corsi rating with a 58% 5v5 ozone start rate playing with Krug most of the time and the best line in the world half the time vs. Hanifin’s 42% 5v5 ozone start rate playing behind forwards who all had career worst seasons, and even then Carlo only had a 0.84% better CF%. If anything the fact that he didn’t blow Hanifin out of the water is a testament to Hanifin’s game.
I don’t think Carlo won’t improve, I just think he won’t improve all that much offensively. Like I said, I see him as a top 3 defensive D, which is great, especially as a right shot, I just see Hanifin as having legitimate top pair potential in whatever role you want him to play. I can understand wanting a right shot more than a left shot but I think Hanifin’s potential is higher than Carlo’s overall and his contract is fantastic, locked up for several years at a reasonable price, especially if he does become a top pair guy in a year.