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Can we make an offer sheet work

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Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 19, 2021
Published: Jan. 19, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,500,000
4$3,000,000
4$2,500,000
7$6,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
3$2,000,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Tkachuk, Brady$9,520,000
2022 1st round pick
2022 2nd round pick
2022 3rd round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
1.
CGY
ANA
  1. Giordano, Mark
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Seattle
2.
CGY
OTT
  1. 2021 1st round pick (CGY)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
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Offer sheet compensation
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$74,462,500$0$0$7,037,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,800,000$6,800,000
LW
UFA - 7
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 3
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA

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Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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not at that price -- easily matched
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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Who we gonna offer sheet???
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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not at that price -- easily matched


Im trying to fix it
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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not at that price -- easily matched


Trying to fix it
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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Only way Sens don't match an offersheet would be if it was something outrageous, and brought them back 4 x 1st (Which is a HUUUUUUGE overpay).

Brady is going to be a Sen for a while.
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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ottawa has so much capspace there no way he leaves on an offersheet, youd have to trade for him unless you want to offer like a max contract
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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As others said, there's not really a way for Calgary to offer sheet Brady unless it was something ridiculous. It would probably take a contract in the highest bracket which is around 10.9mil+ and would give Ottawa four 1st round picks. Obviously, Calgary would never give him that contract. If they did want Brady, it would most likely have to be through trade but I'm not sure if Calgary has any top prospects or players that Ottawa would be interested in.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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ottawa has so much capspace there no way he leaves on an offersheet, youd have to trade for him unless you want to offer like a max contract


If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
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Nothing Calgary would part with
Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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Two things you need to make an offer sheet work, first, the player has to sign it, second, the team has to pass on matching it. Ottawa has loads of cap space, and the desire to match almost anything when it comes to Brady. Brady likes it in Ottawa with his best friends. It's likely 0/2 on the two things you need to make an offer sheet work.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.
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If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?


idk im not really sure but id have to think dube++ or andersson or something among those lines, wouldnt look to move him for futures
Jan. 19, 2021 at 3:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?


It's not a package Calgary would, could, or should part with. It's a package that is embarrassing to even type out because it's so laughably over the top that nobody would ever suggest it.

The thing with Brady is that he now transcends his value. It's a little ridiculous, admittedly, but the whole Sens organization and fanbase has basically taken their once passionate love and adoration for Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone, the good 'ole days with Spezza, Alfie and Heatley/Hossa, and every bit of positivity that's left surrounding the Ottawa Senators and packaged it into one Brady Tkachuk. You could argue Chabot and now Stützle share some of that, and I'd absolutely agree, but Tkachuk is the heart and soul of this Ottawa Senators team now and will forever be the identity of it. So not only is he a high end player, bordering on elite if not already pushing the bubble with how incredibly impressive his underlying stats are, he's got leadership and intangibles that can't be quantified, and then you have this deep rooted chokehold that the fanbase has on him. It's insane. He's hideous. We hated that we picked this giant manchild in the draft, and yet he's so good and does everything right and now it's hard not to love him.

It's like if the Habs were to trade Brendan Gallagher. He's a damn good player, and his underlying numbers suggest he's potentially even better than his usage has allowed, but even beyond that he's everything that that team exudes. He is the Montreal Canadiens. I think he would have made a wonderful captain, although Shea was a great choice too and they couldn't really go wrong. Gallagher holds more value to the Canadiens than he does in a trade because any team will simply be buying for the on-ice performance and the off-ice intangibles but won't be considering what he means to that team. The Habs would lose any trade that wasn't a vast overpayment.

If the Flames wanted Brady, it would take something so inconceivable that the Sens would be stupid to say no. Like a four 1st offersheet. Or a package including multiple guys like Dubé, Välimäki, Zary, Pelletier, etc. alongside picks and active talent. We're talking about something that guts that Flames that no team should ever consider.
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Jan. 19, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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It's not a package Calgary would, could, or should part with. It's a package that is embarrassing to even type out because it's so laughably over the top that nobody would ever suggest it.

The thing with Brady is that he now transcends his value. It's a little ridiculous, admittedly, but the whole Sens organization and fanbase has basically taken their once passionate love and adoration for Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone, the good 'ole days with Spezza, Alfie and Heatley/Hossa, and every bit of positivity that's left surrounding the Ottawa Senators and packaged it into one Brady Tkachuk. You could argue Chabot and now Stützle share some of that, and I'd absolutely agree, but Tkachuk is the heart and soul of this Ottawa Senators team now and will forever be the identity of it. So not only is he a high end player, bordering on elite if not already pushing the bubble with how incredibly impressive his underlying stats are, he's got leadership and intangibles that can't be quantified, and then you have this deep rooted chokehold that the fanbase has on him. It's insane. He's hideous. We hated that we picked this giant manchild in the draft, and yet he's so good and does everything right and now it's hard not to love him.

It's like if the Habs were to trade Brendan Gallagher. He's a damn good player, and his underlying numbers suggest he's potentially even better than his usage has allowed, but even beyond that he's everything that that team exudes. He is the Montreal Canadiens. I think he would have made a wonderful captain, although Shea was a great choice too and they couldn't really go wrong. Gallagher holds more value to the Canadiens than he does in a trade because any team will simply be buying for the on-ice performance and the off-ice intangibles but won't be considering what he means to that team. The Habs would lose any trade that wasn't a vast overpayment.

If the Flames wanted Brady, it would take something so inconceivable that the Sens would be stupid to say no. Like a four 1st offersheet. Or a package including multiple guys like Dubé, Välimäki, Zary, Pelletier, etc. alongside picks and active talent. We're talking about something that guts that Flames that no team should ever consider.


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