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They should just rebuild

Created by: RoyBoy
Initial Creation Date: Jan 27, 2021
Published: Jan 27 at 7:12
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Expansion Draft Protection List:
4, 4, 1 format (Kaprisov is exempt)

Eriksson Ek
Mats Zuccarello (NMC)
Kevin Fiala (RFA)
Jordan Greenway

Ryan Suter (NMC)
Jared Spurgeon (NMC)
Jonas Brodin (NMC)
Carson Soucy

Kaapo Kahkonen
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Belpedio, Louis1$750,000
Eriksson Ek, Joel2$3,750,000
Kaprizov, Kirill2$7,000,000
McCoshen, Ian2$750,000
Mittelstadt, Casey1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bartkowski, Matt1$750,000
Mayhew, Gerald1$750,000
Dowling, Justin1$750,000
Rodrigues, Evan1$750,000
Raffl, Michael1$750,000
Lyubushkin, Ilya1$750,000
Ritchie, Brett1$750,000
Biega, Alex1$750,000
Peca, Matthew1$750,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Ladd, Andrew
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Parise, Zach ($3,769,231 retained)
Additional Details:
This was rumored way back and I still see this happening
MIN
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Okposo, Kyle
  3. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
MIN
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]
  3. Raddysh, Taylor [RFA Rights]
  4. Rutta, Jan
  5. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,700,000 retained)
MIN
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    VGK
    1. Foligno, Marcus
    MIN
    1. White, Colin
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
    OTT
    1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
    2. Rask, Victor
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (MIN)
    MIN
    1. 2022 5th round pick (CHI)
    CHI
    1. Rutta, Jan
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Zach Parise: $3,769,231 (50%)
    • Rasmus Ristolainen: $2,700,000 (50%)
    Buried
    • Andrew Ladd: $4,375,000 ($5,500,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MIN
    PIT
    BUF
    TBL
    MIN
    BUF
    PIT
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    TBL
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    CHI
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,174,359$0$0$325,641
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    $2,100,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $3,750,000
    C
    RFA
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    TBL
    Johnson, Tyler
    $5,000,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Mittelstadt, Casey
    $750,000
    C
    RFA
    MIN
    Zuccarello, Mats
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Raffl, Michael
    $750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    OTT
    White, Colin
    $4,750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Mayhew, Gerald
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    Rodrigues, Evan
    $750,000
    RW, C
    UFA
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $725,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    BUF
    Okposo, Kyle
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Suter, Ryan
    $7,538,461
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    $3,666,667
    G
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Biega, Alex
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    $725,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Soucy, Carson
    $2,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Lyubushkin, Ilya
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Dowling, Justin
    $750,000
    C
    UFA
    Ritchie, Brett
    $750,000
    RW
    UFA
    MIN
    Bartkowski, Matt
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA

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    Jan 27 at 7:20
    #1
    In need of a laugh
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    Trading Fiala is the last thing they should do
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    Jan 27 at 7:57
    #2
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Trading Fiala is the last thing they should do


    Not to mention including him in any deal to unload Rask, who they could just buy out or better yet just keep him and let his deal expire if they are rebuilding.
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    Jan 27 at 8:14
    #3
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Trading Fiala is the last thing they should do


    Quoting: JayTea
    Not to mention including him in any deal to unload Rask, who they could just buy out or better yet just keep him and let his deal expire if they are rebuilding.


    As a non-Wild fan, I am not of the school of thought of a full fledged rebuild at all.

    1. The depth the Wild have on the wing is better than most teams - and outside of Zucc and Parise, it's younger and pretty talented. You can work with that.

    2. Any thoughts of a full feldged rebuild flew out the window with Spurgeon resigning. So, a top 4 or he, Brodin, Suter amd Dumba is pretty dang solid. Addison will come - and the Wild could stand to fill out some organizational depth here, but that top 4 is set for another 3-4years.

    3. Kähkönen.

    4. We can talk about the real lack of centre depth, but if all things go to plan, are Rossi, Boldy and Erikkson-Ek not good? Again, organizationally this could stand some filling out, but it seems to me there is direction here.

    5. With the expiring deals here, Guerin has options.

    Bonino should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Johanson should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Either playet could start to fill out organizational needs.

    Point I am making is this is a team in a spot that need to be filling out the edges imo, not blowing it up.

    @TanSor Thoughts?
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    Jan 27 at 8:40
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    Quoting: swinny
    As a non-Wild fan, I am not of the school of thought of a full fledged rebuild at all.

    1. The depth the Wild have on the wing is better than most teams - and outside of Zucc and Parise, it's younger and pretty talented. You can work with that.

    2. Any thoughts of a full feldged rebuild flew out the window with Spurgeon resigning. So, a top 4 or he, Brodin, Suter amd Dumba is pretty dang solid. Addison will come - and the Wild could stand to fill out some organizational depth here, but that top 4 is set for another 3-4years.

    3. Kähkönen.

    4. We can talk about the real lack of centre depth, but if all things go to plan, are Rossi, Boldy and Erikkson-Ek not good? Again, organizationally this could stand some filling out, but it seems to me there is direction here.

    5. With the expiring deals here, Guerin has options.

    Bonino should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Johanson should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Either playet could start to fill out organizational needs.

    Point I am making is this is a team in a spot that need to be filling out the edges imo, not blowing it up.

    @TanSor Thoughts?


    Boldy isn't a center. He's a wing. Eriksson Ek is having a great year and he's young, Rossi is still probably a couple years away from being a top 6 center, though maybe next year he could be their 3C? They really need a guy to play in their top 6 now to go along with Ek, but who and what would it cost?

    The problem with the options for trading expiring deals is Guerin might be fooled into thinking the team has a chance if they can make the playoffs and not trade those expiring deals. Stupid and short-sighted, I blame LA and St. Louis for winning Cups when they were in a bad position to do it. lol
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    Jan 27 at 8:49
    #5
    Isles7
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    The isles are not trading their 2021 1st.
    Jan 27 at 8:53
    #6
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    Fiala has too much pot. to trade him away
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    Jan 27 at 9:27
    #7
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    Quoting: swinny
    As a non-Wild fan, I am not of the school of thought of a full fledged rebuild at all.

    1. The depth the Wild have on the wing is better than most teams - and outside of Zucc and Parise, it's younger and pretty talented. You can work with that.

    2. Any thoughts of a full feldged rebuild flew out the window with Spurgeon resigning. So, a top 4 or he, Brodin, Suter amd Dumba is pretty dang solid. Addison will come - and the Wild could stand to fill out some organizational depth here, but that top 4 is set for another 3-4years.

    3. Kähkönen.

    4. We can talk about the real lack of centre depth, but if all things go to plan, are Rossi, Boldy and Erikkson-Ek not good? Again, organizationally this could stand some filling out, but it seems to me there is direction here.

    5. With the expiring deals here, Guerin has options.

    Bonino should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Johanson should fetch a 3rd or a grade B prospect at least.

    Either playet could start to fill out organizational needs.

    Point I am making is this is a team in a spot that need to be filling out the edges imo, not blowing it up.

    @TanSor Thoughts?


    This team sort of has rebuilt already outside of our blue line. Parise, Ek, Greenway, and Foligno are basically the only forwards left from our core 3-4 years ago and our goalies are all new. We just need a good center, maybe two depending on Rossi's health condition. Problem is teams aren't stumbling to give one up. I think if we had say a Barkov and Rossi turns into a solid 2nd liner, we'd be in the playoff conversation.
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    Jan 27 at 9:29
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    Quoting: TanSor
    This team sort of has rebuilt already outside of our blue line. Parise, Ek, Greenway, and Foligno are basically the only forwards left from our core 3-4 years ago and our goalies are all new. We just need a good center, maybe two depending on Rossi's health condition. Problem is teams aren't stumbling to give one up. I think if we had say a Barkov and Rossi turns into a solid 2nd liner, we'd be in the playoff conversation.


    You know Barkov costs your first born and a left nut right?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔
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    Jan 27 at 9:31
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    I think Rossi is going to be a top 6 centre in 21/22 or 22/23. Watching him with '67s he's going to be just fine at centre in NHL, biggest thing will be strength, but I think he'll be fine there, he's short, not tiny. Really smart player, Wild got a good one.
    Jan 27 at 9:35
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    Quoting: swinny
    You know Barkov costs your first born and a left nut right?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔


    Absolutely. Probably my kidney too. Maybe a finger or toe
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    Jan 27 at 9:36
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    Quoting: TanSor
    Absolutely. Probably my kidney too. Maybe a finger or toe


    Do you really need any of those things though? Honestly?
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    Jan 27 at 9:42
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Do you really need any of those things though? Honestly?


    It's just a flesh wound
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    Jan 27 at 12:51
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    Buffalo jumps all over that deal and thanks god for you.

    edit: oh wait, all of these are hilarious.
    Jan 27 at 1:09
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Boldy isn't a center. He's a wing. Eriksson Ek is having a great year and he's young, Rossi is still probably a couple years away from being a top 6 center, though maybe next year he could be their 3C? They really need a guy to play in their top 6 now to go along with Ek, but who and what would it cost?

    The problem with the options for trading expiring deals is Guerin might be fooled into thinking the team has a chance if they can make the playoffs and not trade those expiring deals. Stupid and short-sighted, I blame LA and St. Louis for winning Cups when they were in a bad position to do it. lol


    Those expiring contracts really aren't worth anything right now. You couldn't give away Bjugstad and MarJo, Bonino and Cole would need to be retained on and still maybe get a couple of 3rds for each of them. Come the TDL the GM is going to come out and say "we're going to stick with what we have and see what happens." The reality will be that nobody will want the Wild's rentals, and he's saving face by saying that.

    The JEE line, Kaprizov (on a line by himself), goalies, and the d-corps (except Spurgeon) are carrying the team.
     
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