Can't just look at his standard stats and judge him. He's a proven 30 goal scorer twice. Playing him in the top 6 he could easily get back to that. Plus he has term on his deal unlike Hall, Garland, Pearson, or Buchnevich. & Arvidsson would cost an arm and a leg to get outta Nashville right now. They're by no means rebuilding so have no reason to move him. Rakell has a relatively cheap contract with an extra year on control, something Dubas has shown he prefers. That's why Rakell makes the most sense right now

Yeah, the sooner we put an end to this "Rakell isn't half the player Kapanen is," the better.

That was 3 and 4 years ago. How is a 1st, prospects, probably a roster player to match salaries not a “arm and a leg” cost. All I’m getting at is if the Leafs are willing to spend that much capital I hope it’s for a sure thing and not “we think he can get back to he’s old self” IMO

I just don’t like the fit

Good. We’ll keep him then.

Sweet, continue playing him on the 3rd line. That’s he’s role

Zach Hyman
2018-2019. . . . . (71 games) 21 goals, 20 assists = 41 points
2019-2020. . . . . (51 games) 21 goals, 16 assists = 37 points

Rickard Rakell
2018-2019. . . . . (69 games) 18 goals, 25 assists = 43 points
2019-2020. . . . . (65 games) 15 goals, 27 assists = 42 points

Is Rakell better or worse than Blake Coleman? With retained salary their contracts become nearly identical and Coleman fetched the Devils a 1st and Nolan Foote so I would think a similar trade would be fair, no?

At the very least, I don't think the idea of the Leafs trading for Rakell in a deal involving a 1st round pick warrants posting a new team to make the point that it's a crazy idea lol.

😂 your comparing Rakall to Hyman. I don’t even know where to start. Ya, we good, keep him.

Because it’s an overpay. How do the Leafs even protect him next year in the expansion draft. By all accounts the will go 4 skaters 4 Dman. Are you telling me Seattle wouldn’t selects him. That would mean the Leafs would have to pay to keep him protected. MORE Prospects or a pick. A rental is definitely the way to go.

The expansion draft is definitely an issue. But that's different from it being an overpay. Compare it to similar trades and it's pretty reasonable value. Biggest question is what would the Leafs have to give up to keep Seattle from picking him.

The difference is the quality of prospect it would take to get Arvidsson over Rakell. Likely takes a top prospect for Arvidsson (Robertson, Sandin, or Amirov) where Rakell won't.

Terrible comparison...

Rakell was paid to put up goals. That's his game. Hyman is the workman on the team. He's kid to go get the puck for the scorers and play physical.

In terms of value:
Hyman >> Rakell

The expansion draft is a huge issue, let another team pay that price then. Because it will cost the Leafs even more then to protect him. At best Rakall is a 2nd + B prospect with no retention

Totally, as much as I don't think overly highly of Rackell, Kapanen was super overrated. That being said using the return Kapanen got is folly, it was and is an obvious massive overpay for him.

It will cost the Leafs even more with the expansion draft next year. Yes, Dubas doesn’t like rentals, but this year makes the most sense to acquire one. The Leafs would have to pay Seattle not to select Rakall. The are more then likely going 4 and 4

I don't like how much it would cost to get him. He'd be an okay add at the right price but will cost too much.

It will cost way to much because the Leafs would need retention. Unless some how they take Kerfoot back. The Leafs would then need to pay Seattle not to select Rakall in the expansion draft. A rental makes the most sense, like Pearson.

Absolutely

Not really. Depends how it's played out. Something that I thought out was Rakell (50% retained) and a mid tier prospect at best, for a Dermott, Engvall, Niemela, and a 1st. That's not too expensive for Toronto since they have to move roster players for anyone they get anyways and it's a good deal for Anaheim. It was well revived by most Ducks fans. Then expansion draft comes along and they protect 7-3-1 and make a side deal with Seattle to protect Holl and have them select Hutchinson. Regardless if they protect this idea or the current 8 skaters plus a goalie they have to make a side deal. & if 8 guys are protected you're making a deal with Seattle to protect Holl and Kerfoot, or you just protect Holl with the idea I proposed. Leafs actually aren't in a terrible spot for the expansion as many think.

I agree. The leafs should target a rental forward this year over term. Would cost less to acquire and doesn’t cause an expansion draft problem.

There are other teams that would have a need for Rakell rather than the Leafs. Leafs are flush with wingers and centres. And then we get into the two week Covid restrictions. Ducks are competing for a playoff spot, they should keep now and see how the season plays out.

Your better off not even starting with leaf fans. Like I told you before if the player isn’t wearing a leaf jersey he’s bad. If he is wearing one he’s the greatest player ever

Again, that is just so much to spend on 1 player (Dermott, Engvall, Niemela, a 1st, and then even another prospect or pick just to protect Rakall 😱. All for a guy your hoping regains he’s scoring touch. How is that not an overpay?
Rental player all the way for me.
1st + prospect for Buchnevich
Or
2nd + prospect for Pearson

But agree to disagree

It's not really as much as you think. None of those 3 players really factor into Toronto's long term plans (you can argue Dermott might) so Toronto moving them while they have value is key.

Buchnevich would cost more than a 1st + a prospect because you can more control with him being an upcoming RFA (you'd still have to protect him against Seattle). Pearson, meh. I don't see him having a spot when Toronto's lineup is healthy. So why spend anything on a guy that they wouldn't really use?