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a scary good future

Created by: tyler19
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2021
Published: Mar. 17, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
tank this year for a top 3 pick
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. 2022 4th round pick (BUF)
2.
BUF
  1. Heinola, Ville
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (WPG)
3.
BUF
  1. 2021 7th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
  2. Skinner, Jeff ($3,000,000 retained)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BUF)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
chicago says they will utilise cap space to gain assets. picks will be high 2nd and 3rd round.
4.
BUF
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
26$81,500,000$58,822,458$1,487,500$10,470,000$22,677,542
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,050,000$3,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$874,125$874,125
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 5
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$864,166$864,166
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$889,166$889,166 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$845,000$845,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:35 a.m.
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NO!
Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:37 a.m.
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Kravtsov_Stan
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everyone says no in these trades except Buffalo
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:38 a.m.
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this would be the kind of asking price for Eichel which is why I think he won't be traded, GM's won't give up so much of their future for 1 player not matter how good he is....unless they're a top contender and want to go for it all this year.

EDM doesn't do that, they can't afford to be trading D, Especially Bear and for a rental they can try to sign in the offseason.
don't think WPG does this either.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.
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no one on earth is taking skinners contract
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Lol is this serious??? Oilers have been waiting for 20 years for a player like Bouchard. And you want us to trade for him for 30 games from Hall
Add Dahlin into that trade.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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You will most certainly get a no from all teams not named Buffalo.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Chicago says no skinner is the worst contract in the league right now they are going to want a first round pick then some. The ranger deal is the type of deal it would take to pry Eichel away from Buffalo since they have no desire to trade an elite center who’s not 25 but I doubt the rangers go that far. Also I don’t see Winnipeg trading a top defensive prospect for an okay defenseman. I don’t think Edmonton has a desire to give up top prospects for a rental with two goals.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:43 a.m.
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tyler19
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Quoting: Vermathex
no one on earth is taking skinners contract


its 33% retained, they said they are willing to take on bad contracts to gain assets and they could buy him out
Mar. 17, 2021 at 10:49 a.m.
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Rangers have to send some "good" cap to the Sabres to make it work. The other trades favour Buffalo way too much.
Mar. 17, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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Sabres say no to the Rangers deal
All the other teams say no to the Sabres in their respective deals.
Mar. 17, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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Edmonton isnt trading bouchard. He's the next chris pronger.

You are getting fleeced if you trade Eichel for Lafreniere and Kakko, there is nothing saying they both aren't 4th liners yet.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
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The Oilers finally take they're time time to develop a d man properly then trade him for a struggling UFA? They will not trade Bouchard unless Eichel or Dahlin are coming back the other way.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Yesyesyes2020
Chicago says no skinner is the worst contract in the league right now they are going to want a first round pick then some. The ranger deal is the type of deal it would take to pry Eichel away from Buffalo since they have no desire to trade an elite center who’s not 25 but I doubt the rangers go that far. Also I don’t see Winnipeg trading a top defensive prospect for an okay defenseman. I don’t think Edmonton has a desire to give up top prospects for a rental with two goals.


From Chicago standpoint, I’m listening to this offer. $6M for Skinner who can easily put up 20 goals and has put up 30 before. Put him on a line with Kane or Dach or (God willing) Toews. Give him PP1 minutes he could do well in Chicago.

You mention it takes a 1st then some. Ryan Johnson was a 1st rounder in 2019. He’s a LD which Hawks could use more of since De Haan and Zadorov may not be in the future plans. Plus the two draft picks will be in the 30s and 60s. This is a quality return IMO. Hawks could also always try to flip Skinner at a deadline in the future and retain 50% and you know teams will jump at Skinner for $3M. If that happens hawks are left with nothing but tons of assets (3 from this trade and a 1-2 from the subsequent Skinner trade if it happens).
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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Can you waive the Pegulas?
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
From Chicago standpoint, I’m listening to this offer. $6M for Skinner who can easily put up 20 goals and has put up 30 before. Put him on a line with Kane or Dach or (God willing) Toews. Give him PP1 minutes he could do well in Chicago.

You mention it takes a 1st then some. Ryan Johnson was a 1st rounder in 2019. He’s a LD which Hawks could use more of since De Haan and Zadorov may not be in the future plans. Plus the two draft picks will be in the 30s and 60s. This is a quality return IMO. Hawks could also always try to flip Skinner at a deadline in the future and retain 50% and you know teams will jump at Skinner for $3M. If that happens hawks are left with nothing but tons of assets (3 from this trade and a 1-2 from the subsequent Skinner trade if it happens).


They probably want a 1st that is above 15, not a former late round pick which has closer value to a 3rd than a top 15 historically.

Also Johnson is a decent prospect but 1) he's years away which means he's not taking over De Haan / Zadorov when they'd actually need him to and 2) the Hawks have plenty of guys like him in the system, even LDs. Like he's a slightly bigger version of Beaudin or slightly smaller Kalynuk or Carlsson, who are already NHL ready. Or they also do have plenty of LD prospects like Demin, Kaiser, Krutil, Phillips, etc that weren't taken as high up but it's not an area of weakness. The Hawks need forward prospects, not defenders.

The picks are fine if you were talking about a few years of $6m in salary or retaining $3m, but there are 6 years left of that. Chicago wouldn't even give Debrincat or Kubalik $6m for 6 years when they were signing them, no way they're taking on that long a contract right now. And def not going to want to carry dead $3m in space of that long either so that whole "they could flip him and retain" doesn't make sense in a flat cap world.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: tyler19
its 33% retained, they said they are willing to take on bad contracts to gain assets and they could buy him out


Jfyi no one is buying out a contract like Skinner's lol.

If a team bought Skinner out this summer, they'd have a cap hit of only $1.47m next season but then it goes up to almost $9m for the 2022-23 season and then back to $1.4m for 2 seasons then $4.4m then $6.5m for a season then 6 more years of a cap hit of $2.5m. That's Skinner on the books for 12 more years. Never going to happen ever because there's no value in it.

The Hawks are definitely willing to take on bad contracts for assets, but they mean those that are expiring or have a year left - not one that goes on for 6 more years. It's not like it's impossible, just unlikely. Skinner probably would be better with someone like Kane feeding him pucks but dude has really declined in a two year span so that's a risk that Bowman is not known to take.
Mar. 17, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
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Jets are not Trading Heinola
 
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