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Created by: hwjw

Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 1, 2021

Published: Apr. 1, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Nothing flashy in FA, the Winnipeg way. I think MP comes back at a discount and I think that those two fourth line vet wingers can help develop Gus. I would love to see the Jets sign a UFA top 6 winger (Hyman/Schwartz/Tatar), but I think that gets in the way of Perfetti. I think he gets a real top 6 look next year. I think with PLD, it becomes likely that Perfetti has to develop as a winger. Which is ok, I feel like he’d play well anywhere with anyone.
D pairings are just a suggestion, I think they would move around a bit. But I think that right side is pretty solid and unless they bring back a LHD vet on a 1 year deal, I think both the young dudes get a shot.
I know the expansion draft is a hot button issue here, but I think with Samberg and Heinola waiting (and JMo going nowhere), Stanley is the odd man out. Would be too bad because he’s impressed this year. But DeMelo is so solid to me, just helps break up plays that would otherwise lead to opponents’ chances. Him being taken would just leave a gaping hole for the RHD, even if they signed Savard. Someone’s got to be taken and I think losing DeMelo would hurt more than people realize.
I think trying to not be up against the cap is a good idea. This could really come in handy at the trade deadline and I think with the pandemic it’s never a bad idea to try and save a couple of bucks.
Feedback always appreciated!

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Copp, Andrew		3	$3,750,000
Pionk, Neal		5	$5,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Lowry, Adam	4	$3,500,000
Savard, David	3	$4,250,000
Rieder, Tobias	1	$1,000,000
Perreault, Mathieu	3	$2,125,000

Trades

WPG

Savard at 2021 deadline

CBJ

Niku, Sami
2022 3rd round pick (CBJ)

WPG

Seattle

CBJ

Stanley, Logan [RFA Rights]

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$76,223,813	$145,122	$1,657,500	$5,276,187

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 5	Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Perfetti, Cole $894,167$894,167 ($500,000$500K) LW, C RFA - 3	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $5,000,000$5,000,000 C UFA - 1	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 3
Copp, Andrew $3,750,000$3,750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 5	Appleton, Mason $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 1
Perreault, Mathieu $2,125,000$2,125,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1		Rieder, Tobias $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA
	Gustafsson, David $817,500$817,500 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Morrissey, Joshua $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD UFA - 7	Savard, David $4,250,000$4,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 3
Heinola, Ville $863,333$863,333 LD RFA - 3	Pionk, Neal $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Berdin, Mikhail $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 2
Samberg, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($250,000$250K) LD RFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Beaulieu, Nathan $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Little, Bryan $5,291,667$5,291,667 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Harkins, Jansen $725,000$725,000 LW UFA - 1
Vesalainen, Kristian $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Luoto, Joona $741,667$741,667 ($0$0$0$0) ($50,000$50K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Nogier, Nelson $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.

Bdawwwgy1

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think we could get more than an AHL dman and a third in next years draft for the best dman available at the deadline

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Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.

Mr_Canoehead

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Would you entertain 1st round pick swap plus a 3rd rounder for Seattle to select a pending 4th liner UFA?

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:07 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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DeMelo is so terribly slow and massively overrated, give Seattle something to take him, would much rather keep Stanley, could bring back Poolman for half the cost of DeMelo if another dman is needed though I don't think that'd be necessary since Samberg has been playing his off-side with the Moose.

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:30 p.m.

pharrow

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Savard will get a 1st + a B prospect.

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Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:35 p.m.

Birtle34

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

It’s time for a franchise changer, time for Chevy to hang it all out there, demelo,Stanley, harkins, possibly last first rounder, next first rounder, and even vaselainen. Whatever it takes to acquire a number 1 dman, a rental forward and whatever needed for a run. 3 year window is here.

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.

hwjw

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Quoting: pharrow

Savard will get a 1st + a B prospect.

Quoting: Bdawwwgy1

think we could get more than an AHL dman and a third in next years draft for the best dman available at the deadline

I guess with Ekholm probably out because Nashville is back in the race, the market for a Dman will be smaller.
But based on his play this year, a first and a prospect seems like a lot to give up.

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.

Mr_Canoehead

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Portzline (The Athletic) on where the market might be for Savard. Not alot of conviction in his view:
"If they get a first-round pick for Savard, I think they’d be delighted. Kekalainen is probably going to be wise and wait until just before the deadline, trying to get multiple teams involved in the bidding. So maybe a late-round first and a prospect. That seems very reasonable to me."

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.

Bdawwwgy1

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Quoting: hwjw

I guess with Ekholm probably out because Nashville is back in the race, the market for a Dman will be smaller.
But based on his play this year, a first and a prospect seems like a lot to give up.

I agree, Savard really isn't that good but there will be a bidding war and he is a coaches dream

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Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.

Mr_Canoehead

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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1

I agree, Savard really isn't that good but there will be a bidding war and he is a coaches dream

Time to move on to speculating about Demers and Goligoski?

Apr. 1, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.

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pharrow

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Quoting: hwjw

I guess with Ekholm probably out because Nashville is back in the race, the market for a Dman will be smaller.
But based on his play this year, a first and a prospect seems like a lot to give up.

that team doesn't have one legit top 6 center, what do you expect the stats look like

Apr. 2, 2021 at 2:23 a.m.

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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead

Would you entertain 1st round pick swap plus a 3rd rounder for Seattle to select a pending 4th liner UFA?

A first round pick swap and a 3rd would be good but you have to realize that the jets firts is already going ot be late. So that throws that idea out the window. Now if the jets want to move out of the first round entirely...

Apr. 2, 2021 at 7:59 a.m.

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Quoting: arafay

Actually it doesn't. It would mean that it would move the Jets' first back from the 20s (first round exit) to 30/31, so it would be swapping the Jets 1st with a stanley cup contender's first which Seattle will likely own in the run-up to the expansion draft. Same style of deal as the last expansion draft.

Apr. 2, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.

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Quoting: Birtle34

Break the bank for Seth Jones.

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Apr. 2, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead

Looking back at how well the expansion draft with Vegas went for the Jets I wonder if that was from Chevy and McCrimmon being long time friends.

Apr. 2, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.

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Edited Apr. 2, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.

Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Looking back at how well the expansion draft with Vegas went for the Jets I wonder if that was from Chevy and McCrimmon being long time friends.

Possibly, but he was dealing with McPhee who Cheveldayoff would have known professionally from McPhee's time at the Caps.

Apr. 2, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.

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Birtle34

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Break the bank for Seth Jones.

I kinda wonder about shmidt, tanev or klingberg, along with the Jones dream lol. Jets probably just going to pluck another off the waiver wire for free and continue on, or somebody living in somebody else’s pressbox and in need of an opportunity.

Apr. 2, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.

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Viqsi

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Break the bank for Seth Jones.

Would cost you Scheifele. We'd take a center one step down from him, but The Traitor isn't welcome back after what he did.

Apr. 3, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.

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hwjw

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Quoting: Viqsi

Would cost you Scheifele. We'd take a center one step down from him, but The Traitor isn't welcome back after what he did.

Boy, it’s a good thing Jets fans don’t feel this strongly about Laine/Rosy. So much energy wasted on being pissed.
I’ll tell ya, they’ll get mostly cheers when CBJ returns to the Peg. Doesn’t sound like it’s the same for CBJ and PLD.

Apr. 3, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Viqsi

Would cost you Scheifele. We'd take a center one step down from him, but The Traitor isn't welcome back after what he did.

I know the Jackets wouldn't do it but I really think they'd be better off doing a bit of a rebuild and trading a guy like Jones for a great big futures package with an A-prospect or two and a 1st plus some other pieces would be a good way to get the ball rolling on that.

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Apr. 3, 2021 at 10:55 a.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Birtle34

Rumor is Schmidt already blocked a trade to the Jets, Tanev idk, he's defensively strong which is what the Jets need but his injury history is a concern, no doubt he'd help though, just can't see Dallas trading Klingberg even if it's looking like they'll miss the playoffs.

As much as the defense needs some upgrades
the structure of play in the defensive zone doesn't help at all and is where a lot of this cluster**** play comes from and also the Jets centers just aren't good defensively so there's that, so often I'm watching the Jets just getting worked in the D zone and I'm saying "where's our center?"

Apr. 3, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.

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Viqsi

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Quoting: hwjw

Laine didn't precipitate an international headlines-making existential crisis for the entire organization by way of his actions given who he was and what he represented to the team, so, no, the responses are not equivalent nor should they be.

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