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Created by: PeterK
Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2021
Published: May 1, 2021
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Seattle will take Murray, Logan Brown, Tierney or Dzingel I'm guessing. Althought I think Logan Brown might be protected. Assuming G to be protected is Gus.

No cluw what it taakes but I think Phili would make this move lety me know
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
3$900,000
2$1,200,000
3$7,000,000
3$1,700,000
1$800,000
2$1,500,000
2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Tierney, Chris
  2. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$64,459,250$0$4,482,500$17,040,750
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 7
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$749,250$749,250
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 2

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May 1, 2021 at 7:29 a.m.
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We are not trading our captain any time soon
May 1, 2021 at 7:48 a.m.
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Edited May 1, 2021 at 7:57 a.m.
You cannot trade whats probably a top 5 pick in that draft for 1 year of Giroux.
May 1, 2021 at 7:53 a.m.
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Quoting: HikinenNisti
We are not trading our captain any time soon


At least remove the C from his chest
May 1, 2021 at 7:54 a.m.
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TBH, I think it would cost more to get Giroux. Also, seeing as he'll be in the last year of his deal AND we aren't going to win the Cup, I'm not sure it makes sense for Ottawa unless we believe we want, AND CAN, re-sign him on a reasonable deal with a 3 years or less term. Something like a $7M X3. But I'm pretty sure Giroux would rather take a pay cut and go to a team that's a favourite for the Cup... that's not Ottawa, YET.

* Side note: I wouldn't separate Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson. IF we had Giroux I would put Stützle on his left and see which of Dadonov, White and C Brown works best on the right.
May 1, 2021 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: TCMonkey
TBH, I think it would cost more to get Giroux. Also, seeing as he'll be in the last year of his deal AND we aren't going to win the Cup, I'm not sure it makes sense for Ottawa unless we believe we want, AND CAN, re-sign him on a reasonable deal with a 3 years or less term. Something like a $7M X3. But I'm pretty sure Giroux would rather take a pay cut and go to a team that's a favourite for the Cup... that's not Ottawa, YET.

* Side note: I wouldn't separate Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson. IF we had Giroux I would put Stützle on his left and see which of Dadonov, White and C Brown works best on the right.


I agree on the lines. I didn't realize I messed that up.

Giroux is from Ottawa and might want to go back for the last couple yearas of his career and help a young team take the next step. Ottawa will be good next year, I think they will be a playoff contender.
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May 1, 2021 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
At least remove the C from his chest

Who's your captain
May 1, 2021 at 8:30 a.m.
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I agree on the lines. I didn't realize I messed that up.

Giroux is from Ottawa and might want to go back for the last couple yearas of his career and help a young team take the next step. Ottawa will be good next year, I think they will be a playoff contender.


I agree that Ottawa could/should/would make the playoffs next season with the addition of Giroux. And you're not wrong, hometown boy, exciting young team... but Giroux might be more inclined to take a pay cut and go play with the AVS or something. It would just be too much for Ottawa to give up the 1st rounder if Giroux wouldn't sign and we were forced to move him at the deadline. I'm just doing some math on where we'd be if we extended him for 3 years...
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May 1, 2021 at 8:33 a.m.
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Quoting: PeterK
I agree on the lines. I didn't realize I messed that up.

Giroux is from Ottawa and might want to go back for the last couple yearas of his career and help a young team take the next step. Ottawa will be good next year, I think they will be a playoff contender.


A team that hopes to be a playoff contender that trades away their 1st before the season in a draft that strong is really risking having that be a lottery pick.

Ottawa might be ready to turn the corner but a few untimely injuries and they could be right at the bottom of the league again.
May 1, 2021 at 8:33 a.m.
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Quoting: HikinenNisti
We are not trading our captain any time soon


He's a 32 year old UFA and there's a good chance they gave you Shane Wright in return 😳😳😳😳😳 may I suggest there's more to the deal than that ultimately

Trying to stay understated 😐

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May 1, 2021 at 8:44 a.m.
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He's a 32 year old UFA and there's a good chance they gave you Shane Wright in return 😳😳😳😳😳 may I suggest there's more to the deal than that ultimately

Trying to stay understated 😐

*steam escaping from various orifices*


He's still our captain and giving up a player that has played his entire career with philly would come at a higher price than that.

Only way i see Giroux switching teams is if he doesn't sign with philly
May 1, 2021 at 8:46 a.m.
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It took half a decade for Erat-Forsberg to fade from the collective consciousness and the GoldenSeals gm trading away the Lafleur pick is a well known story

This is somehow both (!!!) in a single trade

Why try to go down in history for futility

Why

Why is this receiving less scorn than most posts 🧐
May 1, 2021 at 9:05 a.m.
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A team that hopes to be a playoff contender that trades away their 1st before the season in a draft that strong is really risking having that be a lottery pick.

Ottawa might be ready to turn the corner but a few untimely injuries and they could be right at the bottom of the league again.


If you're thinking of Giroux as a rental, I totally agree. But if he is extending for 2 to 3 years I'd really consider giving up that first. The way the team is playing now suggests they won't be at the bottom of the standings next season - adding Giroux to that moves them even higher up. You can't build a team around the possibility of losing key players for extended periods of time.
May 1, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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A massive overpay for a 33 year old with one year left who won't lead you to the promise land. Ottawa would much better to spend that cap difference between Tierney and Giroux about 5m on a good UFA and keep their picks.
May 1, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: PeterK
I agree on the lines. I didn't realize I messed that up.

Giroux is from Ottawa and might want to go back for the last couple yearas of his career and help a young team take the next step. Ottawa will be good next year, I think they will be a playoff contender.


Although he played for Gatineau in Junior and spends some of his time in Ottawa in the off-season, he's actually not from here. He's from Hearst, ON which is 10.5 hrs away. Just wanted to clarify that for everyone.
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May 1, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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If you're thinking of Giroux as a rental, I totally agree. But if he is extending for 2 to 3 years I'd really consider giving up that first. The way the team is playing now suggests they won't be at the bottom of the standings next season - adding Giroux to that moves them even higher up. You can't build a team around the possibility of losing key players for extended periods of time.


They need a vet to guide the youngsters too. Who do they have? Chabot as a vet....? Who better than Giroux?
May 1, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.
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It took half a decade for Erat-Forsberg to fade from the collective consciousness and the GoldenSeals gm trading away the Lafleur pick is a well known story

This is somehow both (!!!) in a single trade

Why try to go down in history for futility

Why

Why is this receiving less scorn than most posts 🧐


I think you fail to realize I am not suggesting they trade this years 1st. Next years 1st will hopefully be lower, likely 10-15 ish. Giroux will hopefully bring up all the young guys to another level.
 
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