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Dumba to Ottawa

Created by: skrymir
Published: May 14, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 116/116 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams does not meet the minimum 3 goaltender requirement

Logo of the Minnesota WildMinnesota Wild

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL-$6,000,000111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Thomson, LassiWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---100------
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$462,7952546634712
Change$6,000,000-100110
Final$5,537,205 (↑)24 (↓)46635 (↑)8 (↑)12000

Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOttawa Senators

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zaitsev, NikitaOttawa SenatorsNHL-$4,500,000111---0000--
Thomson, LassiWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---100------
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOTT)---010------
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL-$6,000,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$9,237,4252447643913
Change-$1,500,0000-1-1-1-20
Final$7,737,425 (↓)2446 (↓)63 (↓)2 (↓)7 (↓)13000

Logo of the Seattle KrakenSeattle Kraken

InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Zaitsev, NikitaOttawa SenatorsNHL-$4,500,000111---0000--
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$81,500,0000003612
Change-$4,500,000111010
Final$77,000,000 (↓)1 (↑)1 (↑)1 (↑)37 (↑)12000
May 14, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.
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Ottawa did their damage last draft. Now they're looking to take the next step.

Minnesota gets a 1st, 2nd and former 1st rounder for Dumba

Ottawa sends a 2nd to Seattle to take Zaitsev in the expansion draft.

A d-core of

Chabot - Dumba
Brannstrom - Zub
Mete - Bernard-Docker
J. Brown

would be a huge improvement for Ottawa and will only get better when Sanderson is ready.
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May 14, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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Wild aren't trading dumba for this

Wild already have two 1st round pick in 21. Wild aren't taking back any d in dumba trade; much less a d who won't ever play on the wild. So no.
May 14, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.
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Quoting: skrymir
Ottawa did their damage last draft. Now they're looking to take the next step.

Minnesota gets a 1st, 2nd and former 1st rounder for Dumba

Ottawa sends a 2nd to Seattle to take Zaitsev in the expansion draft.

A d-core of

Chabot - Dumba
Brannstrom - Zub
Mete - Bernard-Docker
J. Brown

would be a huge improvement for Ottawa and will only get better when Sanderson is ready.


Yeah, & this doesn't help wild

Lassi does nothing at all for wild. He won't ever play on wild, not even bottom d where wild will have calen Addison, & ian Cole, or calen Addison, & B.Menell
May 14, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
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Yeah, & this doesn't help wild

Lassi does nothing at all for wild. He won't ever play on wild, not even bottom d where wild will have calen Addison, & ian Cole, or calen Addison, & B.Menell


Did you even see whose pick is this? Do you understand how high this pick can be? Are you aware of Lassi Thomson's potential. Do a research before copypasting mean comments please!

As for the deal, I would take that. we could get Eklund, Lysell or Johnson with that Ottawa pick. Definitely, it is close to what I expect.
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May 14, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
Did you even see whose pick is this? Do you understand how high this pick can be? Are you aware of Lassi Thomson's potential. Do a research before copypasting mean comments please!

As for the deal, I would take that. we could get Eklund, Lysell or Johnson with that Ottawa pick. Definitely, it is close to what I expect.


Completely agree, I think this is a good deal all around. Chabot and Dumba would make a great pairing. Seattle gets an extra pick and a serviceable D man, MIN gets some great future.
May 14, 2021 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
Did you even see whose pick is this? Do you understand how high this pick can be? Are you aware of Lassi Thomson's potential. Do a research before copypasting mean comments please!

As for the deal, I would take that. we could get Eklund, Lysell or Johnson with that Ottawa pick. Definitely, it is close to what I expect.


How is this mean? Didn't even say anything mean on here

Lassi who won't play on wild over Carson soucy, ian Cole or calen Addison? Wild have zero room in their top 4
May 14, 2021 at 9:59 p.m.
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That guys an idiot. 3 different usernames and spews the same **** on each one of them. Hell he almost immediately pissed off his own Wild fanbase after coming here. Best to just ignore him.

Gotta admit though, I was thinking about Thompson, not so much the pick. Was going to say no to this. Lassi's good, but not something we need. Thanks for reminding me where that pick is.

It's a pretty big overpay though. I'd drop the 2nd, and add in one of our two 1st's this year to OTT by way of compensation.

But holy moly, please for the love of God...

GET ME MY KENT JOHNSON!!!!!!

I wanted that kid in the worst way before the season started.



& you are nothing more than a big asshole. Since you want to be a big bully & call someone names. Your the one who started the name calling.
May 15, 2021 at 3:10 a.m.
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Honestly a great setup for all teams, maybe Ottawa keeps their 2nd to the wild?
But otherwise a great idea!
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May 15, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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Wild aren't trading dumba for this

Wild already have two 1st round pick in 21. Wild aren't taking back any d in dumba trade; much less a d who won't ever play on the wild. So no.


Lmao you're nuts. Nobody in their right minds gives up a top 10 pick for Matt Dumba, let alone adding a good D Prospect and a 2nd. This deal is horrendous for Ottawa.
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May 15, 2021 at 10:16 a.m.
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Matt Dumba isn't worth a top 10 pick in my opinion. I don't think he's a good fit at all.

I'd do the Seattle part in a heartbeat, but Dorion all but confirmed the Sens will simply lose who they lose, and won't try and make any deals.
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May 15, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Lmao you're nuts. Nobody in their right minds gives up a top 10 pick for Matt Dumba, let alone adding a good D Prospect and a 2nd. This deal is horrendous for Ottawa.


You're probably right, but Thomson doesn't seem to be in the Sens' long-term plans and they are already stocked with prospects that will need places to play. Dumba would be a huge facelift for the d-core which has been the team's weak suit for 3 years now.
May 15, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
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Matt Dumba isn't worth a top 10 pick in my opinion. I don't think he's a good fit at all.

I'd do the Seattle part in a heartbeat, but Dorion all but confirmed the Sens will simply lose who they lose, and won't try and make any deals.


You only do the Seattle trade if have a replacement top 4 RD that can step in.
May 15, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.
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You're probably right, but Thomson doesn't seem to be in the Sens' long-term plans and they are already stocked with prospects that will need places to play. Dumba would be a huge facelift for the d-core which has been the team's weak suit for 3 years now.


I don't really agree with that assessment of Thomson at all. He's a longer term project for sure, but he absolutely can fit in on this team long term. He's probably gonna take a couple of years, but right now, JBD and Zub are the only RHD who matter long term. The Org sees him as a top 4 D long term.

Also as far as Dumba is concerned, he'd be an improvement, but he's not really the type of D Ottawa needs. He's not a strong defensive player, and I don't really think he's a great fit with the offensive minded LD side of Chabot-Brannstrom-Mete. He's also going to take Power Play time away from Brannstrom, which I think would really hurt him in a really important next season for him. The ideal Dman addition would be a guy who fills the role Zaitsev plays, but without being dog**** bad like Zaitsev.
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May 15, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.
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You only do the Seattle trade if have a replacement top 4 RD that can step in.


I'd do the Zaitsev trade if it meant Ottawa had to play the entire next season with 5D. He makes the Sens better just by not being on them.
May 15, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Dumba would be nice for Ottawa but for that price id thuck myself
 
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