Modern day Hall 4 Larsson but far from as unfair

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Created by: justaBoss

Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2021

Published: Jun. 1, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Garland, Conor	5	$5,600,000
Hill, Adin	2	$1,500,000
Burke, Brayden	1	$874,125
Hayden, John	1	$750,000
Hunt, Dryden	1	$750,000
Speers, Blake	1	$750,000
Dineen, Cam	1	$750,000
Steenbergen, Tyler	1	$750,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Goligoski, Alex	1	$3,500,000
Hjalmarsson, Niklas	2	$3,000,000
Raanta, Antti	2	$1,500,000
Bunting, Michael	2	$1,000,000
Gross, Jordan	2	$800,000
Ness, Aaron	1	$750,000
Montour, Brandon	2	$2,750,000

Trades

ARI

Expansion draft pick

SEA

Kuemper, Darcy

ARI

Marner, Mitchell

Additional Details:

Trading a bit younger D-man for a winger with a higher perceived value who just haven't really performed at the expected level in their former team. Leafs gain a solid D and save $6M.

TOR

Chychrun, Jakob

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $1,258,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$73,084,117	$196,951	$2,650,000	$8,415,883

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 7	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 4
Garland, Conor $5,600,000$5,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($2,150,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 1	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Crouse, Lawson $1,533,333$1,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Pitlick, Tyler $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Söderström, Victor $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) RD RFA - 3
Goligoski, Alex $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Montour, Brandon $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 3
Hjalmarsson, Niklas $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA	Lyubushkin, Ilya $1,350,000$1,350,000 RD UFA - 1	Hill, Adin $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 2
		Raanta, Antti $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Capobianco, Kyle $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1
Hayden, John $750,000$750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Edited Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.

I mean, Chychrun is way better than Larsson

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:55 p.m.

PrimeDatsyuk

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add Keller and Hayton for the yotes, add Rielly for the leafs and its a deal

Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

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Except i think its very much of a debate who’s better, chychrun or marner.

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.

LeafsFanForSomeReason

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This isn't quite the same...

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:57 p.m.

SlevinKalevra

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I’m guessing you didn’t catch a lot of Coyotes games this year

Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:57 p.m.

SlevinKalevra

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Quoting: PrimeDatsyuk

add Keller and Hayton for the yotes, add Rielly for the leafs and its a deal

Whut?

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:58 p.m.

palhal

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As a Leaf fan, I think they have to get trade a high priced forward in order to get the cap space for two good players. I do that trade as suggested as a Leaf fan .

Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:59 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Marner is VERY good, but Chychrun looks like he's on the verge of Norris level play. I think the ceiling for Chychrun, combined with the position of importance (defense) AND his cap hit would make this a very poor deal for Arizona.

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 8:59 p.m.

Radu47

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Whoa there ⚠️

The best thing about young Adam Larsson was he fared relatively well against elite opposition (overall just meh) I mean he was fairly promising but...

Chychrun has HOF as his best case scenario he just had an 18 goal 40 pt + superb all around season for a team without elite scorers to glean points off at 23

Hall 4 Larsson was an insane sad joke

This trade would actually be pretty even given how cost controlled chychrun is going forward and the very expansive ceiling his impressive ability provides

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:01 p.m.

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justaBoss

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What in tarnation

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Quoting: bhavikp27

I mean, Chychrun is a lot better than Larsson

Statistically speaking Marner is better than Hall was too, but to be fair did anyone really think Hall for Larsson was actually fair? Other than Chiarelli I mean.

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.

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justaBoss

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What in tarnation

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Quoting: PrimeDatsyuk

add Keller and Hayton for the yotes, add Rielly for the leafs and its a deal

Lol no

Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.

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justaBoss

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What in tarnation

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Quoting: SlevinKalevra

I’m guessing you didn’t catch a lot of Coyotes games this year

No I did not

Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.

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Radu47

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Young D who could actually fit as the 'Larsson' here:

Phillipe Myers
Erik Cernak
Ryan Lindgren
Marcus Pettersson
Ryan Graves

Given age skillset ability etc.

So yeah it'd be like trading Marner...

For one of them 😳

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: justaBoss

Statistically speaking Marner is better than Hall was too, but to be fair did anyone really think Hall for Larsson was actually fair? Other than Chiarelli I mean.

No but I think the gap is bigger between Hall and Larsson and Marner and Chychrun. 16's cap hit lowers his value and Chychrun is at least a top20 LD unlike Larsson at that time. Jones instead of Chychrun could be better imo

Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.

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justaBoss

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What in tarnation

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Fair point. I actually didn't realize how good a season Chychrun had until looking at it further after creating the post. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I wouldn't do this trade if I were ARI.

The term difference between Jones and Marner kills the point of the deal for Leafs. They already have Rielly with only year left.

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Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.

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justaBoss

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What in tarnation

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Quoting: Radu47

That is assuming Marner himself is equivalent to Hall when he was traded. Which is not the case. Not a fan of the guy but he's head and shoulders above what Hall was back in Edmonton.

Jun. 1, 2021 at 9:15 p.m.

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SlevinKalevra

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Quoting: justaBoss

No I did not

Chychrun broke out in a big way. 41 points in 56 games. He was amazing

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