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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2021
Published: Jun. 6, 2021
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Could be extra picks in the Calgary trade.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$1,000,000
4$3,000,000
2$3,000,000
1$750,000
2$1,500,000
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2.
OTT
  1. Hållander, Filip
  2. Mikheyev, Ilya
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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20$81,500,000$77,336,783$0$0$4,163,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 4
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Jun. 6, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Flames decline IMO
Jun. 6, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.
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PULL A TAMPA IGNORE
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Both Coleman and Goodrow get more cash
Jun. 6, 2021 at 10:59 p.m.
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OTT declines, Brown costs 1st+
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.
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Horrible for Calgary
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:19 p.m.
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Here’s my official complaint.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
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I'm sure Calgary would love to trade both of their top 6 centers for a winger and Alex Kerfoot. That seems very reasonable and well thought out.
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:33 p.m.
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OTT declines, Brown costs 1st+


Not sure about that. Trade is former 1st round pick, middle 6 guy and 3rd.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:35 p.m.
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I'm sure Calgary would love to trade both of their top 6 centers for a winger and Alex Kerfoot. That seems very reasonable and well thought out.


You mean monahan, who they are not happy with, who9 has been in numerous trade rumours. riiiight. and oh yeah just some winger, not top 5 in scoring and top 10 2 years ago. riiiight.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:35 p.m.
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Here’s my official complaint.


Noteded.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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Both Coleman and Goodrow get more cash


Maybe, who knows. Flat cap. Hoffman should of got more last year and didn't. Different times. Teams are hurting for money.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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Flames decline IMO


Might need extra picks in there, who knows.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.
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If you mean all of the picks to the Calgary trade then sure
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.
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Quoting: cheeky3468
You mean monahan, who they are not happy with, who9 has been in numerous trade rumours. riiiight. and oh yeah just some winger, not top 5 in scoring and top 10 2 years ago. riiiight.


Yes, a winger, regardless of how good he is, who is a winger, and can't play center. In exchange for both of Calgary's top six centers. Two guys who are centers and can definitely play center.

Two centers for a winger. That's the deal you proposed. It wasn't very well thought, and that's your problem, not mine.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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PULL A TAMPA IGNORE
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Quoting: cheeky3468
Maybe, who knows. Flat cap. Hoffman should of got more last year and didn't. Different times. Teams are hurting for money.


they tell you to pound sand and sign somewhere else easily especially the Texas boy Coleman
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Horrible for Calgary


Lmao.

Rielly > Hanifin
Mangipane = Kerfoot
Marner > Lindholm, Monahan

Idk how this is a lose for Calgary at all. You could argue Mangipane might be slight worth more than Kerfoot right now, but with Kerfoot's versatility and proven playoff experience, that margin is extremely slim at best. Rielly is worth far more than Hanifin who just hasn't lived up to expectations of a 5th overall pick at all. And Marner is already worth more than Lindholm, let alone adding in Monahan who has already been criticized for being a poor core piece and someone who can't lead or produce when needed. You're probably gonna sit there and use Marner's playoffs against him, but before you do that remember that Marner has still produced more than both of Lindholm and Monahan in playoffs.

Value's not there at all for Toronto. Calgary walks outta this laughing if they got offered it.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
Lmao.

Rielly > Hanifin
Mangipane = Kerfoot
Marner > Lindholm, Monahan

Idk how this is a lose for Calgary at all. You could argue Mangipane might be slight worth more than Kerfoot right now, but with Kerfoot's versatility and proven playoff experience, that margin is extremely slim at best. Rielly is worth far more than Hanifin who just hasn't lived up to expectations of a 5th overall pick at all. And Marner is already worth more than Lindholm, let alone adding in Monahan who has already been criticized for being a poor core piece and someone who can't lead or produce when needed. You're probably gonna sit there and use Marner's playoffs against him, but before you do that remember that Marner has still produced more than both of Lindholm and Monahan in playoffs.

Value's not there at all for Toronto. Calgary walks outta this laughing if they got offered it.


Hur Dur lets trade 2 top 6 centers and a young top pair LD for an overpaid winger, a 3rd line center and a pending UFA LD

Hanifin (with contract) > Rielly
Mangiapane >>> Kerfoot (not even close)
Lindholm = Marner
Monahan > nothing else
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
Yes, a winger, regardless of how good he is, who is a winger, and can't play center. In exchange for both of Calgary's top six centers. Two guys who are centers and can definitely play center.

Two centers for a winger. That's the deal you proposed. It wasn't very well thought, and that's your problem, not mine.


Fun fact Calgarys top six centres arent top six centres on good teams. Lindholm is a 2, and Monahan is a 2 now about people talk about how bad he is, so lets call him a 3C.
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Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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Fun fact Calgarys top six centres arent top six centres on good teams. Lindholm is a 2, and Monahan is a 2 now about people talk about how bad he is, so lets call him a 3C.


Well I mean they're both 2C's, which definitely qualifies them as top six centers, by your own admission.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Hur Dur lets trade 2 top 6 centers and a young top pair LD for an overpaid winger, a 3rd line center and a pending UFA LD

Hanifin (with contract) > Rielly
Mangiapane >>> Kerfoot (not even close)
Lindholm = Marner
Monahan > nothing else


Do you actually think Lindholm is equal to Marner? Dude has finished top 10 and top 5 in scoring.
Also, Rielly is a much better D than Hanifin, Funt Fact, THEY CAN RESIGN RIELLY. Hanifin is a 2LD as it stands now.
Mangipane plays wing as where kerfoot plays Centre and has played both 3C and 2C... kinda sounds like Monahan lol.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:55 p.m.
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Well I mean they're both 2C's, which definitely qualifies them as top six centers, by your own admission.


Monahan is a bad 2C. Dude is like Kyle Turris.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Hur Dur lets trade 2 top 6 centers and a young top pair LD for an overpaid winger, a 3rd line center and a pending UFA LD

Hanifin (with contract) > Rielly
Mangiapane >>> Kerfoot (not even close)
Lindholm = Marner
Monahan > nothing else


Lmao..

sure, argue with contract that Hanifin is equal to Rielly. But Hanifin sure as hell isn't worth more by any means.

sorry, Mangipane isn't worth more than Kerfoot right now. Long term he may be, but right now it's about equal. Put Kerfoot in the same spot that Mangipane was in all season and Kerfoot blows by Mangipane. Hard for Kerfoot to produce when he played with the likes of Pierre Engvall, Ilya Mikheyev, Wayne SImmonds, etc. all season long.

sorry, that's pure Flames bias in you that thinks Lindholm is equal to Marner. Remind me again when the last time Lindholm was a top 4 scorer in the league? Actually, remind me the last time he was over a point per game in the league? From what I can count, both of those answers are 0. Oh an Marner also plays a key defensive role too. Sorry but players like those don't come cheap.

Monahan is almost worth nothing right now. Good job on that one. A guy that's never lived up to expectations, doesn't come through when his team needs his the most time and time again, and has been on the decline for 2 seasons now. Sorry that doesn't scream a ton of value at all on the trade market.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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Fun fact Calgarys top six centres arent top six centres on good teams. Lindholm is a 2, and Monahan is a 2 now about people talk about how bad he is, so lets call him a 3C.


Lindholm's more of a high end 3C on a contending team. Monahan is nothing more than a 3C
Jun. 7, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.
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Do you actually think Lindholm is equal to Marner? Dude has finished top 10 and top 5 in scoring.
Also, Rielly is a much better D than Hanifin, Funt Fact, THEY CAN RESIGN RIELLY. Hanifin is a 2LD as it stands now.
Mangipane plays wing as where kerfoot plays Centre and has played both 3C and 2C... kinda sounds like Monahan lol.


Lindholm has never even had over a point per game season where Marner's had 3 straight. The guy tries to use the positional argument of Lindholm playing centre over Marner being a winger as a way to justify that Lindholm is equal to Marner which is just a lame excuse at trying to find any way to justify something that's clearly wrong. When there's that much of a gap in offensive production, the positional debate is useless.

Oh and then he says that Mangipane is >>> Kerfoot when they both produce at about the same rate and Kerfoot is a centre. So wouldn't that give the advantage to Kerfoot by his own standard from the Lindholm/Marner debate? Seems like a double standard to me that when his favourite team's player is worth less, he can justify it. But when it's the other way around it's not justifiable.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: cheeky3468
Not sure about that. Trade is former 1st round pick, middle 6 guy and 3rd.


Hallander was a late 2nd, almost 3rd. Realistically Mikheyev is a third liner at best who has 0 playoff points in 12 games. If you bump that 3rd up to a 1st then Ottawa might say yes but that’s a bad return as is. Easy decline.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.
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Quoting: cheeky3468
Do you actually think Lindholm is equal to Marner? Dude has finished top 10 and top 5 in scoring.
Also, Rielly is a much better D than Hanifin, Funt Fact, THEY CAN RESIGN RIELLY. Hanifin is a 2LD as it stands now.
Mangipane plays wing as where kerfoot plays Centre and has played both 3C and 2C... kinda sounds like Monahan lol.


Do I think Lindholm at less than 5M is just as valuable as Marner at 10.9M? 100%. You obviously have no idea how good Hanifin was this year. The fact that you think Kerfoot is even remotely as good as Mangiapane is laughable
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