I would think Buffalo would expect you to at least send Necas.

That would be met with resounding laughter

Necas is better than Eichel ?

It is good value for sure but how about Steven Lorentz? [Spell]

Sabres decline
Secondary pieces won’t do it- no matter how many u add

Necas certainly has more value than an injured, disgruntled Eichel yes... is he better? I mean, since one of them could actually play for most of the season and was capable of taking the ice, I'd lean sure. We don't know what kind of Eichel we will see return after a serious injury. Asking for someone like Necas is laughable when he's an expansion exempt top 6 forward

You are going to be very let down with the return when Eichel is traded

Necas is a good young top 6 player
Eichel is a good young FRANCHISE center

Eichel is NOT A FRANCISE CENTER! If he was, he'd have lead the Sabres out of irrelevance. I point you in this regard to the franchise centers in the NHL. McDavid. MacKinnon. Crosby. Matthews. I don't even know that I'd count Matthews to be honest.

Necas is a top line, expansion exempt winger with the ability to play C.
Eichel is a top line C who's suffering with injuries and openly wants out of Buffalo.

There's no case to make here. Necas is laughable to be included here.

Then you are delusional

Disagree

We aren’t gonna “sell low”
He’s under contract for 5 more years

Enjoy your delusional video game trades
They just aren’t realistic though

Your trade proposal is what’s “laughable”
ZERO CHANCE at getting Eichel for this crap

Not my fault you’re all mad bc Tampa whooped u guys

Seth Jarvis alone should get the dialogue started for a want-away 1C. This package is actually more than I'd be willing to move for someone who would play 2C in Carolina (let's face it, he's not displacing Aho coming off an injury).

I'm not mad about the Tampa series. We were always going to lose to a team spending 20 mil more than the salary cap.

While, Eichel is a great player, he's making 10M in the flat cap era and he's injured

Imagine thinking Jarvis + Drury + Nino + 2 1sts is selling low

The only delusional one is you. I can see you think you're gonna get Kakko + Laf + 2 1st round picks lmao. You're gonna be so disappointed in the return.

Jack is a franchise talent.

He's never had a supporting cast like those guys have.

Jeff Skinner literally scored 40 goals on his wing, with Sam Reinhart on the other side... he's had the talent around him. Put it this way, he's had more talent around him than McDavid when he dragged the Oilers to the playoffs kicking and screaming in 2017.

I'm not saying Eichel isn't a very good player. But I think he's overrated. Francise talents can single handedly drag their teams away from irrelevence. Is Eichel a top 10 C? Maybe, I'd have to sit and write out a list. Top 15? Probably. But he's not the same level as those other players. There is a gap between guys like MacKinnon, Matthews, even Point. I just think he's misappropriated into company he shouldn't be in.

When you then factor in the fact... he's still hurt and wants surgery, AND he wants out of Buffalo... just suggesting Necas' name is laughable as a return. Prospects? Sure. Top 6 winger? I can live with that... top line winger who's still on his ELC in a flat cap time and expansion exempt? Laughable

Lol Skinner and Reinhart is all he had. You can't be serious. Jack's not in control of coaching, goalies, defense, and the depth of the team. it's a team game.

McDavid in 2017 had Drai lol. Plus RNH, Strome, Klefbom, Larsson, Klefbom, and Talbot. That's better D & goaltending than Jack has ever had.
Matthews has Marner, Tavares, Nylander, and can't make it out of the first round
Mack has Landeskog, Rantanen, Makar, Saad, Girard, Grubauer

Their teams are lightyears more talented than teams Jack has ever had. You are underrating him a lot. The guy played amazing last year. He was top 5-6 last year. Sit down and watch him play. He's insanely good.

Never said Necas would be in any return.

You want to go throughout the team?

Ullmark has shown himself to be one of the more underrated goaltenders in the NHL. His underlying metrics were good until he started to combat injury.
Defensively? Dahlin has been a monster for most of his breif NHL Career. Ristolainen is a tyrefire, fine. Pilut was a solid DFD, not great, decent 3rd pairing guy. Joki was meant to be this lord and saviour when he was acquired from Chicago for beans, and he's been... a mixed bag.
You wanna talk about forwards only? Skinner is still a great forward when used right, Reinhart has made casual improvements over his career. Eric Staal was on this team at the start of the year. Cozens had a great first year. Olofsson is one of the better shoot-first wingers in New York, not to mention.... he started the season with TAYLOR HALL ON HIS WING! Hall is now destroying teams with Krejci as his center... On paper, the skill on the buffalo roster this year was for SURE better than the 2017 Oilers.... or even the 2006 Penguins in their first year with Crosby.

That Buffalo team had the talent, their 1C just did not have the same skill to carry them as Matthews, Mackinnon, McDavid because he isn't the same quality of player! This is not a shot at Eichel, there's very few players in NHL history who could carry a team like that, but he is not one of them.

The necas comment was more aimed at others.

Man if you think Jack has had talented teams I have no clue what to say. This is a team that had Eric Staal playing second line center & Lazar / Marcus Johansson playing it the year before. They've had horrible coaching, defence, and depth. Ullmark is hurt every year. His metrics have really only been good the last 2 years. Dahlin is really the only decent d man, but he's not great defensively. Risto is awful. Montour was awful. Colin Miller is awful. Pilut is a bottom pair d man. Okposo is awful. Bogosian is awful. Carter Hutton is awful. Cody Eakin is awful. Gorges is awful. He's had so much awful on his team. The only great player he had was ROR and they traded him for Sobotka & Bergulund lmao.

Cozens is a rookie lol. That's your example of top talent?? Olofsson is only a powerplay specialist. He's horrible even strength.

Analytically, buffalo has had the worst rosters the last 5 years. Even this year, the were predicted to be a bottom team. They just aren't good.

I think you undersold a few of the players on the roster here. Gergs is a decent 3C and Staal as a 2C had better metrics than he does as a 4C in Montreal. Even then, you can't say he didn't have talent when he literally had a former MVP on his wing. Skinner is still capable of being a top 6 winger if he's played in the top 6. Olofsson is still a middle six winger, Reinhart is still a top 6 winger.... they had the offensive talent, and he wasn't even a point per game. Yes, his season ended short due to an injury, but tell me the last time a FRANCHISE center was under a PPG? Hell, even Aho had 57 points in 56 games. I'm not gonna say Eichel is a bad player, but he's not a franchise altering player. Is he a 1st line center on a contender? Probably not... is he a 1C on Colorado? Tampa? Boston? No... that's just my two cents on him. He's a good 1C for teams that are fringe teams, and that might go deep if they have the right pieces in their bottom 9, but he can't drag teams kicking and screaming like MacKinnon or McDavid can.

And you’re gonna be disappointed bc there’s ZERO CHANCE u get Eichel for these SECONDARY pieces

Secondary pieces lol? We'll check back in two months

Yes, late 1sts don’t have top value
Neither do those other pieces.... except maybe Jarvis
And the MAYBE needs to be emphasized
Not like he was a top5 pick

At no point in Eichel's career has he had more than 3 top 6 players. The fact you're arguing about someone who's a 2nd liner on Buffalo, but a 4th liner on a playoff team shows that.

He had 18 points in 21 games. You're acting like had 2 points in 21 games. Aho was literally under PPG last year lol.

Idk what to tell you. He's a franchise player. Every metric shows that. If you want to just ignore reality go ahead. He's a 1C on every team except Edmonton, Colorado, Pittsburgh, and Toronto. That's it.

Even McDavid who's a generational talent can't will teams to the playoffs. He's only made it 3 out of the 6 years. That's while playing with Drai too. When Eichel gets traded to a contender he's gonna absolutely tear it up. Then everybody is gonna be saying damn we should've traded for him.

Jarvis is one of the best prospects in the whole league.

Eichel is realistically getting an A prospect, B prospect, roster player, 2 1sts

Nothing close to what you think.