Jack Eichel is Giancarlo Stanton

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Rangers don’t even fit the sabres needs in terms of prospects so he wasn’t going to be a Ranger regardless.

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.

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Very good comparison

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.

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Hahaha oh boy. Interesting comparison but I don’t think it will be the case. This would be great for us if it was, even if he missed most of the seasons on LTIR and only showed up for playoffs a la TB style. Pipedream for sure but funny

Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

The rangers aren't making the playoffs next year.

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.

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Rangers don’t even fit the sabres needs in terms of prospects so he wasn’t going to be a Ranger regardless.

What are you talking about?! The Sabres literally need everything in terms of prospects. EVERYTHING!

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.

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Quoting: Sabres923

Rangers don’t even fit the sabres needs in terms of prospects so he wasn’t going to be a Ranger regardless.

Lol the team with the top 3 prospect pool doesn't meet the prospect needs of the worst team and worst prospect pool in hockey? You literally need EVERYTHING lol. Also, if LA Kings are truly out on the Eichel, the price to acquire him is falling like a lead balloon. I ll be generous. Lundqvist, Strome and the 15 OA.

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.

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What are you talking about?! The Sabres literally need everything in terms of prospects. EVERYTHING!

Look at the sabres prospect pool of defenseman it’s good. The only have a couple good forward prospects. Rangers only have one with Pajuniemi. You can’t replace Eichel with defensive prospects.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.

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It takes 5 minutes to see the sabres strengths with their prospects and it’s defenseman. Rangers don’t really have any high end forward prospects. Which is a huge need for the sabres.

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.

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Pretttttty big stretch to compare a contract that will cost the Yankees approximately $265 million (Marlins covered $30 mil) through a players age 38 season, to a player who will be paid $50 mil through his age 30 season, no? There's also no salary cap in baseball. Stanton has also had 3 relatively healthy seasons out of the 12 that he's played (whereas this is Eichel's first major injury).

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.

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The rangers aren't making the playoffs next year.

the Rangers finished in the top 16 in points this season.
they had over $17M in dead cap and the youngest team in the league by almost a full year.
i'd say their chances of making playoffs next year is pretty good...

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Sabres923

Look at the sabres prospect pool of defenseman it’s good. The only have a couple good forward prospects. Rangers only have one with Pajuniemi. You can’t replace Eichel with defensive prospects.

it's not good, it may be classified as sufficient.
the Rangers have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL and the player you identify is LP, come on guy...

Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.

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His injury history might not be as extensive, but there has still been plenty of uncertainty about this particular one.

If they acquire him, and the injury lessens his ability, it won't matter how young he is. A liability is a liability.

And yes, there is no Cap in baseball. Only the luxury tax. While that would give the Yankees some maneuverability with Stanton (if they chose to go over), the Rangers don't have that option. They are stuck with a hard cap, which is also a Flat Cap for the near future. Harder to work around.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

it's not good, it may be classified as sufficient.
the Rangers have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL and the player you identify is LP, come on guy...

Who else has put up impressive point totals? Certainly not Kravtsov. It’s really not a fit. I don’t understand why it has been so hyped up for a long time.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Sabreshockey53

The rangers aren't making the playoffs next year.

I strongly disagree but it’s pointless for us to have this debate now. It’s safe to say that everyone outside of NYR fans would say we have 0 chance and will miss playoffs so if/when we make it, we will be loud about it.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

maybe if Kakko can produce like a normal lottery pick. maybe he will chip in for 25 points next year!

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.

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Who else has put up impressive point totals? Certainly not Kravtsov. It’s really not a fit. I don’t understand why it has been so hyped up for a long time.

your first issue is that you are looking at point totals from prospects to draw conclusions...

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.

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Quoting: NYR1983

you guys are already loud for being a team that is slightly over 500.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

your first issue is that you are looking at point totals from prospects to draw conclusions...

Most good prospects put up good numbers. And Krastov hasn't dome that in the AHL. KHL or in the NHL.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.

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you guys are already loud for being a team that is slightly over 500.

and you guys are loud for being a team that has only won the draft lottery in the past decade.
i mean, if Sabre players were worth everything you are asking for in trades, they should just be a playoff team...

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.

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Quoting: Shakabakes

His injury history might not be as extensive, but there has still been plenty of uncertainty about this particular one.

If they acquire him, and the injury lessens his ability, it won't matter how young he is. A liability is a liability.

And yes, there is no Cap in baseball. Only the luxury tax. While that would give the Yankees some maneuverability with Stanton (if they chose to go over), the Rangers don't have that option. They are stuck with a hard cap, which is also a Flat Cap for the near future. Harder to work around.

Sure, but it's pretty simple to look at Stanton's contract and know that even before the trade that he had negative surplus value. Assuming 1 WAR=$8 mil, Stanton would have to put up an average of 3.7 WAR over the duration of the remaining 10 years of his contract to be worth exactly zero (Which, considering that baseball's regression curve is pretty accurate) would have been a pretty huge stretch to get to.

I also feel like there's a lot less risk with Eichel's injury than there is when it comes to acquiring prospects. Everyone (Everyone!) overvalues their prospects, and 90+ percent of them never come close to reaching their ceiling.

The argument that Eichel's cap hit may not make sense long term for the Rangers isn't something that I'd disagree with, but comparing him to Stanton isn't fair IMO.

Jun. 10, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.

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you guys are already loud for being a team that is slightly over 500.

Hahaha just wait till we are crushing it

Jun. 10, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Sabres923

Look at the sabres prospect pool of defenseman it’s good. The only have a couple good forward prospects. Rangers only have one with Pajuniemi. You can’t replace Eichel with defensive prospects.

Friendly piece of advice, don't expect to be taken seriously if you think New York's "only" good forward prospect is a C-grade prospect.
And from reading the further comments you wrote, all you clearly care about is points. Take Julien Gauthier while you're at because he tore up the AHL!

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Jun. 10, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.

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