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Created by: Lancebmx

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2021

Published: Jun. 28, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Just looking at a few things that would be really interesting if they happened. I know most likely wouldn't happen but just for fun.

Now I'm not a fan of offer sheets, but Tampa is in such a bide that these are a possibility. I also don't think Yzerman would do that to his old team as well, but maybe he uses an offer sheet as some sort off leverage to trade for one or multiple of those guys for cheap. That said I know not all would really fit in Detroit, just some decent young players in my opinion.
The Sorokin one is a bit different and I'm sure if someone offered that the islanders would match, but they would be in tough having to resign beauvillier and pelech while also trying to potentially retain palmieri and /or zajac. Again I don't condone offer sheets, but it would be a way to get a good young goalie for only a second round pick.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Barré-Boulet, Alex	2	$1,439,800
Raddysh, Taylor	2	$1,439,800
Colton, Ross	2	$1,439,800
Foote, Cal	2	$1,439,800
Katchouk, Boris	2	$1,439,800
Sorokin, Ilya	2	$4,363,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Barré-Boulet, Alex	$1,439,800	No Compensation
Raddysh, Taylor	$1,439,800	No Compensation
Colton, Ross	$1,439,800	No Compensation
Foote, Cal	$1,439,800	No Compensation
Katchouk, Boris	$1,439,800	No Compensation
Sorokin, Ilya	$4,363,000	2022 2nd round pick

Trades

DET

Bean, Jake [RFA Rights]
Gardiner, Jake
2021 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Gardiner cap dump, been labeled with two second round picks by a few people. Why not ask for Jake Bean, he's most likely to be exposed in the expansion draft, unless they protect him over Brady skjei. Detroit could protect him easily enough and have a decent young LD for the future.

DET

Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]

STL

2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
2022 2nd round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

This one is on every second Detroit AGM as it makes alot of sense, although some blues fans don't see it that way. Blues lose a depth forward in the ED instead. This way they at least recoup something for their top 4 dman they lose.

DET

WSH

Greiss, Thomas ($1,800,000 retained)

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This is another cap dump of hagelin. With him they send over vanecek who would likely be taken in the ED. They might end up losing Schultz which I don't think they would be that sad about. Sending Greiss back with retained salary is an option so the have a decent veteran back up to mentor, he doesn't need to go. I would still be resigning Bernier and just run 3 until the trade deadline.

DET

Dumba, Matt

MIN

Lindström, Gustav [RFA Rights]
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Now the much hated Dumba trade. I still think for the right price he could be a player to target. Lots of people don't think there is a fit and I do agree we have some good young RD coming up, but the team is better with him than before. The wild need cap space to resign fiala, kaprizov and JEE. Not to mention still fill out the team. If Dumba doesn't want to resign he can be traded at the deadline, most likely for more than what it cost to acquire him. Do I think this is the best path for Detroit? No. But it's a fun idea and the team would be better.

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Thomas Greiss: $1,800,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$81,500,000	$54,253,390	$0	$850,000	$27,246,610

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Pánik, Richard $1,375,000$1,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 2		Raddysh, Taylor $1,439,800$1,439,800 RW RFA - 3
Katchouk, Boris $1,439,800$1,439,800 LW RFA - 3	Barré-Boulet, Alex $1,439,800$1,439,800 RW, LW UFA - 3
	Colton, Ross $1,439,800$1,439,800 C, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1
	Newpower, Wyatt $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2
		Vanecek, Vitek $716,667$716,667 G UFA - 1
Gardiner, Jake $4,050,000$4,050,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2		Sorokin, Ilya $4,363,000$4,363,000 G UFA - 3
Foote, Cal $1,439,800$1,439,800 RD RFA - 2
Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.

Chopper02

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Blues would want Washington's pick. While two 2nd rounders is fair, the Blues need value in their pipeline. If it takes adding a lower pick with Dunn, then so be it, but ideally, Dunn (maybe a 4th round) for WSH first.

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Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.

jnowariak

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That’s really not an appetizing return for Dumba. I get that common wisdom is that he’ll be exposed but I really just don’t see it. The WSH 1st would probably be the start of the package to get him.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: Chopper02

Not totally unreasonable, I think I would covet that first rounder a bit more, just cause there are a couple players who could drop that could be very very good picks if developed properly.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: jnowariak

With Lindstrom they get a good, cheap stay at home dman to fill the hole, former second rounder. I don't see the first being totally unreasonable but for it to make sense for Detroit I don't think it would be a best option. I'm sure other teams will offer more but they risk leaving good players exposed.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:28 p.m.

mokumboi

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For me, that Dumba offer is whack, bro.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:28 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: Lancebmx

Dumba is far and away the most valuable piece to be lost in expansion, but he can be protected. Most everybody else is a mid 6 winger or a 4-6 dman. I don’t blame teams for trying to lowball here, the incentive just isn’t there to move him at that price.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: mokumboi

For me, that Dumba offer is whack, bro.

It's low just because he's likely exposed in expansion, not even close to his real value I know. More so just so they can recoup assets for him. Also they get a roster player and much needed cap space which seems to be the most saleable asset this year.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: jnowariak

I could potentially see Minnesota protecting 8 skaters to keep him, just risk losing a decent forward which I think would be easier for them to cope with. But they also need some more cap space as I feel just their 3 RFAs take up between 15-18 mill. It's hard to say which way they go but will be interesting to see.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.

OnlyBadDeals

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I wouldn't if I was Carolina. If Dougie leaves in UFA and we trade away the 2 other PP quarterbacks we create another hole that we will need to overpay in free agency to fix

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.

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Quoting: OnlyBadDeals

I wouldn't if I was Carolina. If Dougie leaves in UFA and we trade away the 2 other PP quarterbacks we create another hole that we will need to overpay in free agency to fix

The thing is Bean is gone in the expansion draft anyways most likely. The rest of the players exposed aren't that exciting for Seattle. Gardiner barely got any playing time for the last two seasons, that was because of his lack luster play. If Hamilton walks not sure what they could do, maybe Barrie? Seems like every Toronto fan wants Reilly out, maybe they try to acquire him.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.

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Jfstompers

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So the rfa offers I think dont happen. They never do they never will. Id hope no on Carolina and Washington maybe but I'm not sure thats the deal. I think Dunn is a real possibility and id take dumba for sure.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.

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Big no on Carolina. They’ll like protect Bean over Skjei. If Seattle takes Skjei, they have more cap space fo address that need in FA.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.

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vikhodush

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Quoting: Lancebmx

Bean likely protected over Skjei. Higher ceiling, team control and cheap. Skjei has been very good with Canes but at his cap hit if they lose him they can address that in FA.

Jun. 28, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.

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Lancebmx

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Quoting: vikhodush

Big no on Carolina. They’ll like protect Bean over Skjei. If Seattle takes Skjei, they have more cap space fo address that need in FA.

Yeah see what happens, if they don't protect Bean then it's a possibility

Jun. 28, 2021 at 3:38 p.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

I agree a Washington's 1st for Dunn is fair.

Jun. 29, 2021 at 9:41 a.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

Quoting: aedoran

I agree a Washington's 1st for Dunn is fair.

to be honest nobody cares what they "want" or what is "fair." their backs are up against the wall and every single other team knows Dunn would be taken in the expansion draft. The blues aren't getting fair value for what he's worth because of this. Two 2nd's is plenty enough for a player that essentially not even on the team anymore.

Jun. 29, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.

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Chopper02

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Quoting: MrazekGFX

Blues can protect Dunn and leave Krug exposed since no one will take that contract or even trade to protect Dunn. Their backs aren't against the wall at all.

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