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Freddy Andersen is interested in coming back as a backup

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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2021
Published: Jun. 30, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max
1$1,325,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
TOR
    Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2022 5th round pick (CGY)
    CGY
      Signing rights to pending UFA Zach Hyman
      4.
      TOR
        Toronto gets Max Domi while Columbus retains 50% of his salary.
        CBJ
        1. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
        2. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
        Additional Details:
        A Nick Foligno-like trade that is made at the 2022 Trade Deadline if making the playoffs is guaranteed.

        Leafs legend Tie Domi might convince his son Max to re-sign with Toronto as well.
        5.
        TOR
        1. Middleton, Jake
        Additional Details:
        San Jose retains 25% of Domi's salary while Toronto pays the other 25% that is left over.

        In summary:

        Columbus pays 2, 650, 000 or 50% of Domi's Salary

        San Jose pays 1, 325, 000 or 25% of Domi's salary

        Toronto pays the other 25% of Domi's salary
        SJS
        1. 2022 5th round pick (CGY)
        Additional Details:
        Toronto gets an AHL-level player and compensates San Jose with a low pick for all their troubles.
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        UFA - 6
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        C
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        UFA - 3
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        UFA - 1
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        UFA - 1
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        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
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        UFA - 3
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        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
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        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
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        To put that cap/cash into perspective. Detroit retained on Savard for around 200k cash for a fourth round pick and knew they weren’t going to hit that cap of 3 retained salaries. This falls short, real short.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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        goodrow is getting more on the market. cbj doesnt make that trade as domi is more valuable than those picks.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.
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        And also, just because he's interested in returning to TO on a platoon, possibly more of a backup role, doesn't mean he would sign for that low of a deal.. Bet even with the down year, and somewhat trending down last couple years he'd still likely take a pay cut, but in the neighborhood of $3m or so....
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        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.
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        Quoting: Hockey247
        goodrow is getting more on the market. cbj doesnt make that trade as domi is more valuable than those picks.


        What if Goodrow wants to play for his hometown team?
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:20 a.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        What if Goodrow wants to play for his hometown team?


        oh he should play for free. i mean its the leafs. he should play for waaaay below market value because you know, hes a super star and has already accumulated generational wealth
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:26 a.m.
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        Quoting: BStinson
        To put that cap/cash into perspective. Detroit retained on Savard for around 200k cash for a fourth round pick and knew they weren’t going to hit that cap of 3 retained salaries. This falls short, real short.


        I made the same type of trade with San Jose and they weren't interested because they said "they were going to use their cap space".
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:26 a.m.
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        Edited Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
        DET could do this, but at the TDL. There is a maximum of 3 retained salaries a team can have in a given year. This would take up 1, and given the ample cap space DET has, I don’t see them retaining salary this early for a 5th rounder. There will likely be much more valuable pieces coming DET’s way for players with higher cap hits though.

        You also need to consider the repercussions of Covid and the flat cap. I feel teams would be less likely to make cap trades at the beginning of the season due to the financial repercussions. TDL cap dumps are more supportive of this in that a bulk of the salary has already been paid off, alleviating a large portion of the financial burden.
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        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
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        Quoting: Hockey247
        oh he should play for free. i mean its the leafs. he should play for waaaay below market value because you know, hes a super star and has already accumulated generational wealth


        It's a hometown discount, not exactly "playing for free".

        Also, saying Goodrow is a superstar is laughable.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.
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        Vancouver will take Kerfoot if you add a third , not us adding a third. It is your cap dump not ours.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.
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        I hope the Leafs have learned their lesson by not giving away draft picks at TDL for older non contributors.
        Certainly Domi hasn't been good for two years. Leafs don't need him next season or in the future.
        Of course Andersen will say "He wants to return". He has to keep his options open. Lots of other UFA goalies available this summer.
        Just too many holes on the teams because of the signing of 8.5m Hamilton
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.
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        Quoting: BubbleDemko
        Vancouver will take Kerfoot if you add a third , not us adding a third. It is your cap dump not ours.


        Kerfoot isn't exactly a cap dump.


        This ACGM post of mine from two weeks ago shows two different Canucks fans willing to pay a 3rd for Kerfoot.

        https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2473686


        You seem to be in the minority :/
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Kerfoot isn't exactly a cap dump.


        This ACGM post of mine from two weeks ago shows two different Canucks fans willing to pay a 3rd for Kerfoot.

        https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2473686


        You seem to be in the minority :/



        Why would we give draft picks and not just sign a free agent cheaper? NO thanks . We already have centers.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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        Quoting: BubbleDemko
        Why would we give draft picks and not just sign a free agent cheaper? NO thanks . We already have centers.


        That begs the question as to why draft picks are ever traded by any of the 31 teams to begin with.

        Also, going cheaper usually means going for less quality.

        But to each his own.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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        Ok, wings eat salary and give up a b prospect for a 5th. Nice try, uumm NO, especially for a division rival.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        It's a hometown discount, not exactly "playing for free".

        Also, saying Goodrow is a superstar is laughable.


        if you dont understand sarcasm, I cant help you bud. not every player will take a massive discount to play in their hometown, esp when they arent a superstar adn have to fight for every penny
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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        if you dont understand sarcasm, I cant help you bud. not every player will take a massive discount to play in their hometown, esp when they arent a superstar adn have to fight for every penny


        I've made several posts within the last few weeks where Goodrow signs a 1 year deal with the Leafs and you're the first person to attack it.

        Also, this is not what this post is primarily about.

        If you can't read the title, I can't help you bud.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:02 a.m.
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        Ok, wings eat salary and give up a b prospect for a 5th. Nice try, uumm NO, especially for a division rival.


        A prospect that will probably never play a game in the NHL.

        Also, Detroit ate salary in the Nick Foligno trade from, guess what, a division rival.

        The horror!
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        I hope the Leafs have learned their lesson by not giving away draft picks at TDL for older non contributors.
        Certainly Domi hasn't been good for two years. Leafs don't need him next season or in the future.
        Of course Andersen will say "He wants to return". He has to keep his options open. Lots of other UFA goalies available this summer.
        Just too many holes on the teams because of the signing of 8.5m Hamilton


        Hockey247 said half an hour ago that Domi is more valuable than the picks.

        That's probably a sign it's a fair trade.


        Scroll up and read for yourself.

        Should I believe you or him?

        I find it interesting you both have the word "Toronto" written in your profiles.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.
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        I made the same type of trade with San Jose and they weren't interested because they said "they were going to use their cap space".

        What’s your point? I provided a comp for this specific trade with the team in question. Your compensation is too low.


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        A prospect that will probably never play a game in the NHL.

        Also, Detroit ate salary in the Nick Foligno trade from, guess what, a division rival.

        The horror!

        Pearson gets a shot at 4C duties this upcoming year. I think you’re confusing Foligno with Savard.
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        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        I've made several posts within the last few weeks where Goodrow signs a 1 year deal with the Leafs and you're the first person to attack it.

        Also, this is not what this post is primarily about.

        If you can't read the title, I can't help you bud.


        and he wont lol. if he wants to win a cup, or at least win a round, he doesn't come to toronto. go ask marleau and thornton how many rounds the leafs win in the playoffs.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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        Quoting: BStinson
        What’s your point? I provided a comp for this specific trade with the team in question. Your compensation is too low.



        Pearson gets a shot at 4C duties this upcoming year. I think you’re confusing Foligno with Savard.


        1. My point is that some people just comment on my posts just to trash them and completely ignore that similar ideas have been done before.

        They also try to manufacture excuses that such ideas are impossible and will never happen again.

        It doesn't matter how good those ideas are.

        Whether you're one of those people, I'm not sure.

        Your next comment could serve as a bellwether.


        2. Pearson has been with the Red Wings for 6 years. You'd think he would gotten a shot at 4C duties by now.

        As for confusing Foligno with Savard, my point on eating salary from a division rival is still the same.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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        Quoting: Hockey247
        and he wont lol. if he wants to win a cup, or at least win a round, he doesn't come to toronto. go ask marleau and thornton how many rounds the leafs win in the playoffs.


        and he might lol.

        If he wants to play for his hometown team and be close to his family, he comes to Toronto.

        Toronto hasn't won a playoff round recently but Marleau and Thornton still signed there, so what's your point?
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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        1. My point is that some people just comment on my posts just to trash them and completely ignore that similar ideas have been done before.

        They also try to manufacture excuses that such ideas are impossible and will never happen again.

        It doesn't matter how good those ideas are.

        Whether you're one of those people, I'm not sure.

        Your next comment could serve as a bellwether.


        2. Pearson has been with the Red Wings for 6 years. You'd think he would gotten a shot at 4C duties by now.

        As for confusing Foligno with Savard, my point on eating salary from a division rival is still the same.

        I merely provided a comp trade to be used as a baseline to determine your value is off. This isn’t my assessment but rather events that have happened. SJ fans wanting to use their cap in a particular fashion has no barring on Detroit’s cap.

        Detroit has been loaded with expensive bottom 6 forwards and some of those contracts are now gone so Pearson most likely gets an extended look. His stats don’t show start potential in the NHL but he isn’t that. He’s a bottom 6 center hopefully. I’ve liked his progress the past 1.5 years or so.
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        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        and he might lol.

        If he wants to play for his hometown team and be close to his family, he comes to Toronto.

        Toronto hasn't won a playoff round recently but Marleau and Thornton still signed there, so what's your point?


        ah yes. go from a stanley cup championship caliber team to a team that can't even win a round in the playoffs while being in the prime of your career and are hoping for a good stable contract. makes sense.
        Jun. 30, 2021 at 11:39 a.m.
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        Edited Jun. 30, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
        Quoting: BStinson
        I merely provided a comp trade to be used as a baseline to determine your value is off. This isn’t my assessment but rather events that have happened. SJ fans wanting to use their cap in a particular fashion has no barring on Detroit’s cap.

        Detroit has been loaded with expensive bottom 6 forwards and some of those contracts are now gone so Pearson most likely gets an extended look. His stats don’t show start potential in the NHL but he isn’t that. He’s a bottom 6 center hopefully. I’ve liked his progress the past 1.5 years or so.


        That's probably the kindest and most well-thought out comment, especially compared to what others have said here.

        I appreciate it smile

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