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Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2021
Published: Jul. 29, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$900,000
2$2,000,000
4$3,250,000
2$925,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Brown, Logan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,075,833$0$0$7,424,167

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 3
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 29, 2021 at 7:57 p.m.
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If that crap package gets eichel then he would have been gone months ago.
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Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.
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Ottawa accepts
Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.
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That’s not nearly enough for Monahan.

If you’re willing to trade Monahan, and you want Eichel, then there’s your start, then add Valimaki, Zary, and the 1st. Then offer Dube for Logan Brown.
Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:39 p.m.
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I think if Calgary wants Eichel, it probably has to include one of Tkachuk / Monahan AND one of Dube / Mangiapane, plus 1st round pick and maybe Valimaki
Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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Treys not doing that
Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
That’s not nearly enough for Monahan.

If you’re willing to trade Monahan, and you want Eichel, then there’s your start, then add Valimaki, Zary, and the 1st. Then offer Dube for Logan Brown.


That would be an awful offer for Eichel
Jul. 29, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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I think if Calgary wants Eichel, it probably has to include one of Tkachuk / Monahan AND one of Dube / Mangiapane, plus 1st round pick and maybe Valimaki


Tkachuk yes, Monahan no, Valimaki no, so combination of the rest yes
Jul. 29, 2021 at 9:05 p.m.
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That should get Adams fired if he did that.
Jul. 29, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.
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Does Monahan get Norris from Ottawa? If so add him to the Eichel trade and keep dube. Add another high pick if necessary.

https://twitter.com/kent_wilson/status/1420821328714637312?s=21
I just don’t think Monahan would waive his NTC for Buffalo.
Jul. 29, 2021 at 9:51 p.m.
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That would be an awful offer for Eichel


Sounds like you’re going to be disappointed in the actual return if you think that’s awful.
Jul. 29, 2021 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Michaelscott
Does Monahan get Norris from Ottawa? If so add him to the Eichel trade and keep dube. Add another high pick if necessary.

https://twitter.com/kent_wilson/status/1420821328714637312?s=21
I just don’t think Monahan would waive his NTC for Buffalo.


Monahan does not get Norris.
Jul. 29, 2021 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Sounds like you’re going to be disappointed in the actual return if you think that’s awful.


No
Jul. 29, 2021 at 11:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No


Yes. That would likely be the best offer on the table right now.

Flip Monahan for a 1st+ (Comparable to Reinhart deal)
Valimaki = Top pairing potential, 1st round value
Zary = Top 6 C potential, recent 1st rounder
2022 1st

Thats more than four 1st rounders. If thats an awful offer then you're gonna cry when you see the actual return. For comparison, Vegas' offer right now is Smith, Hague, Krebs and 2022 1st.
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Jul. 29, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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Yes. That would likely be the best offer on the table right now.

Flip Monahan for a 1st+ (Comparable to Reinhart deal)
Valimaki = Top pairing potential, 1st round value
Zary = Top 6 C potential, recent 1st rounder
2022 1st

Thats more than four 1st rounders. If thats an awful offer then you're gonna cry when you see the actual return. For comparison, Vegas' offer right now is Smith, Hague, Krebs and 2022 1st.


No. Puts more onus on Buffalo to flip Monohan, CGY can and should do that, Valimaki is redundant, Sabres are set with LD (Dahlin-Power-Samuelsson-Johnson-Valimaki) if Valimaki was so good he wouldnt be a thrown-in on trades in the majority of CGY ACGMs. Zary and the '22 first would be 2 pieces but its still off. Also the 4 first rounders thing was debunked weeks ago. Krebs > Zary - Hague >> Valimaki
Jul. 29, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
No. Puts more onus on Buffalo to flip Monohan, CGY can and should do that, Valimaki is redundant, Sabres are set with LD (Dahlin-Power-Samuelsson-Johnson-Valimaki) if Valimaki was so good he wouldnt be a thrown-in on trades in the majority of CGY ACGMs. Zary and the '22 first would be 2 pieces but its still off. Also the 4 first rounders thing was debunked weeks ago. Krebs > Zary - Hague >> Valimaki


Not sure what you have against Valimaki. We expect him to be a top 4 guy this year, but of course he's available for Eichel. Plays on the right side too btw where he is IMO more effective.
Monahan >> Smith
CGY 1st will likely be much earlier than Vegas'
Pretty similar offer in terms of value.
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 12:00 a.m.
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Not sure what you have against Valimaki. We expect him to be a top 4 guy this year, but of course he's available for Eichel. Plays on the right side too btw where he is IMO more effective.
Monahan >> Smith
CGY 1st will likely be much earlier than Vegas'
Pretty similar offer in terms of value.


Because the Sabres arent trading their #1C for a redundant LD, i just showed you why it doesnt make sense. Its not like they need him now, theyre tanking for Wright, so Power Samuelsson and Johnson all get another year to mature, Samuelsson is already NHL ready and Power is coming to the NHL as soon as he signs, so Valimaki is the odd man out after 1 year
Jul. 30, 2021 at 12:26 a.m.
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Because the Sabres arent trading their #1C for a redundant LD, i just showed you why it doesnt make sense. Its not like they need him now, theyre tanking for Wright, so Power Samuelsson and Johnson all get another year to mature, Samuelsson is already NHL ready and Power is coming to the NHL as soon as he signs, so Valimaki is the odd man out after 1 year


Then why TF are they asking for Nic Hague? And I was incorrect earlier, apparently the Vegas package is what Buffalo is asking from Vegas, not the offer given by Vegas.
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Sounds like you’re going to be disappointed in the actual return if you think that’s awful.


Why should buffalo accept that offer? What are they losing?
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Jul. 30, 2021 at 12:34 a.m.
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Then why TF are they asking for Nic Hague? And I was incorrect earlier, apparently the Vegas package is what Buffalo is asking from Vegas, not the offer given by Vegas.


Elliotte Friedman said that package is a rumor, only thing confirmed as an ask is Krebs
Jul. 30, 2021 at 2:37 a.m.
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Then why TF are they asking for Nic Hague? And I was incorrect earlier, apparently the Vegas package is what Buffalo is asking from Vegas, not the offer given by Vegas.


Quoting: Shibbal18
Elliotte Friedman said that package is a rumor, only thing confirmed as an ask is Krebs



Jul. 30, 2021 at 4:14 a.m.
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If you're putting up Ryan Kennedy against Elliotte Friedman, go ahead
Jul. 30, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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If you're putting up Ryan Kennedy against Elliotte Friedman, go ahead


I'm posting a link, which you didn't
Jul. 30, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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Looking at calgarys cap siatuation next year if calgary trades for eichel:
One of Chuky, Mang or Johny needs to go. All 3 are due for raises and flames won't have money to sign them if they get Eichel without moving one out.
If its mang that's moving then you also need to ship out someone like monahan.
 
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