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Created by: habs_need_Scoring

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2021

Published: Aug. 17, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Any offer sheet over 10 mil becomes tricky for vancouver because it forces them to bridge Hughes which could cost them a lot in a couple years i think they would prefer to get both locked up on 5-6 year deals, if not longer, with reasonable cap hits. Petterson's comments on wanting to play for a team that will be competitive each year leans me to think he doesnt want to commit long term 5 years brings him to Free agency if he decides he wants to move on.

The trade is an alternative to an offersheet, given what habs would have to give up pick wise they could add a few prospects and make the trade offer to allow them to not have to over pay on the cap hit but instead give up a few more assets.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Poehling, Ryan	2	$1,000,000
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi	2	$2,500,000
Pettersson, Elias	5	$10,250,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Pettersson, Elias	$10,250,000	2022 1st round pick 2022 2nd round pick 2022 3rd round pick 2023 1st round pick

Trades

MTL

Peterson

VAN

Additional Details:

Drouin would probably need to be move regardless for cap reasons. This would include 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd as shown in the offer sheet signing.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$68,147,144	$597,561	$1,557,500	$13,352,856

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Pettersson, Elias $10,250,000$10,250,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $2,500,000$2,500,000 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
	Paquette, Cédric $950,000$950,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4
Norlinder, Mattias $859,167$859,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Aug. 17, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.

Salzy

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VAN is going to match anything under the 4 firsts price, and even then they probably match

Hughes probably gets a bridge deal anyways

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.

TheMooterus

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Vancouver would put themselves in salary cap hell before not matching an offer sheet. Gotta think the only way the Canucks even balk at matching is if the Habs come in with some insane offer sheet around $12M that nets them four 1st Round Picks & would be nearly impossible for them to get under the cap. They would trade players & buyout players before letting either Pettersson or Hughes wear another jersey next season.

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.

GenXHockey

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I don’t think Peterson is going to take less than 9.5m on a 5-6 year deal anyway. So Vancouver probably matches. I’m also not sure they are willing to trade him either.

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.

habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: TheMooterus

Quoting: Salzy

VAN is going to match anything under the 4 firsts price, and even then they probably match

Hughes probably gets a bridge deal anyways

Fully agree i dont see any realistic way this goes down and Petterson is anywhere else next year, just have been seeing so many low ball offersheets so figured i would post an alternative. If vancouver did, for some crazy reason, think that they would match an impending offsheet then maybe a trade route could make more sense to bring in more assets on top of the picks, but again i think their only focus is resigning Petterson for sure.

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.

eatfreshrefresh

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god I wish Sebastian Aho never signed that sheet, Canadien fans go crazy now every time there’s an rfa

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 10:49 a.m.

habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: linehan10

god I wish Sebastian Aho never signed that sheet, Canadien fans go crazy now every time there’s an rfa

lol what?

Aug. 17, 2021 at 12:28 p.m.

eatfreshrefresh

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

lol what?

you heard me

Aug. 17, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.

habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: linehan10

you heard me

i did it , it just made no sense. what i posted had nothing to do with aho, and for sure wasnt some far fetched crazy idea. Also seems like you didnt read any of the description on posted before yours.

Aug. 17, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.

rollie1967

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If the Habs have to move salary to make the offer sheet- they have to do that BEFORE the offer, not as part of it, and trading Pettersson would get Benning fired so the chances of him doing this are nil.

Aug. 17, 2021 at 1:03 p.m.

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ricochetii

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Only way to get Pettersson, is a one-for-one equivalent, and that's only if he's willing to sign a reasonable long term deal, just not for the Canucks.
Think along the lines of Heiskanen or Svechnikov, and the odds of that kind of trade are almost zero.

Aug. 17, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.

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eatfreshrefresh

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

the point was Canadien fans are obsessed with rfas almost solely because Sebastian Aho signed a sheet with them 2 years ago. A point that everyone else seemed to understand

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Aug. 17, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.

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habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: linehan10

the point was Canadien fans are obsessed with rfas almost solely because Sebastian Aho signed a sheet with them 2 years ago. A point that everyone else seemed to understand

Sure, RFA's werent a thing before Aho lol. Seems fair to lump everyone together instead of actually discussing the post itself.

Aug. 17, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.

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yeboi6

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PETEY AINT LEAVINGGGGGGGGGGGG SMHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Aug. 17, 2021 at 9:16 p.m.

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CanucksPain

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If you guys did give that much and Pettersson accepts idk what the Canucks do

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